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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#97001: Jul 24th 2015 at 9:30:29 AM

UKIP is basically the like the British Tea Party right?

Oh really when?
Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
V
#97003: Jul 24th 2015 at 9:34:08 AM

[up][up] Sort of; although, Britain being Britain, that means UKIP leans further left than their US counterpartsnote .

edited 24th Jul '15 9:34:32 AM by Greenmantle

Keep Rolling On
EruditeEsotericist Since: May, 2015
#97004: Jul 24th 2015 at 9:51:27 AM

Guys, we have a British Poltics thread. I posted the article for Obama's comments.

ScarletCajun Belligerent Webhead from Lafayette, La. Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Belligerent Webhead
#97005: Jul 24th 2015 at 10:27:16 AM

Could you all please at least wait for the bodies to be buried and mourned before pulling this crap? Would be greatly appreciated.

Lafayette Strong
Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#97006: Jul 24th 2015 at 10:32:39 AM

Pardon?

"Yup. That tasted purple."
ScarletCajun Belligerent Webhead from Lafayette, La. Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Belligerent Webhead
#97007: Jul 24th 2015 at 10:37:38 AM

I live in Lafayette. I'm just tired of seeing shit like 'oh, thank the lord it was a white guy!' or whatever views you might have. Let us mourn.

Lafayette Strong
Mopman43 Since: Nov, 2013
#97008: Jul 24th 2015 at 10:39:39 AM

Its not like we are insulting the victims or something... so, whats up?

Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#97009: Jul 24th 2015 at 10:42:11 AM

I am not sure that particular line of discussion will yield anything fruitful. If you ask me.

Which you didnt. But I did anyways. GUESS I AM AN ASSHOLE.

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
ScarletCajun Belligerent Webhead from Lafayette, La. Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Belligerent Webhead
#97010: Jul 24th 2015 at 10:42:59 AM

Just fucking tired of people on both ends that are going to slant this.

Lafayette Strong
Gabrael from My musings Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
#97011: Jul 24th 2015 at 10:50:32 AM

One of the marines killed came from my graduate alma mater.

You can mourn aloss while discussing how to prevent it from happening again.

That is possible.

"Psssh. Even if you could catch a miracle on a picture any person would probably delete it to make space for more porn." - Aszur
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#97012: Jul 24th 2015 at 10:53:03 AM

I don't think most people picture a black guy when they think of mass shootings or any particular race for that matter. I get the feeling these guys are usually white anyway so that people still don't picture that when thinking of could probably be thought of as a result of privilege or something.

Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#97013: Jul 24th 2015 at 10:55:28 AM

Too Soon itself can be used as a means to slant "talk about gun laws? we just had a tragic shooting!" said the NRA rep.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#97014: Jul 24th 2015 at 10:59:47 AM

All the more reason to talk about it, I think.

Incidents like these must spark serious conversation when it comes to motives and laws and societal causes and so on.

These shootings happen because of inaction and turning a blind eye to racial hate. We let them happen.

So we have to be proactive in preventing them and solving the root problems that cause them. If that means we've gotta be a bit insensitive and rude then so be it.

Oh really when?
nightwyrm_zero Since: Apr, 2010
#97015: Jul 24th 2015 at 11:03:35 AM

[up][up]When it seems you're having mass shootings every other day, invoking Too Soon means never talking about it.

Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#97016: Jul 24th 2015 at 11:06:16 AM

Exactly. This then creates perpetual paralysis on sane gun regulations.

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#97017: Jul 24th 2015 at 11:08:06 AM

Something that stood out to me from the shooter's online history:

Houser was a member of Tea Party Nation, according to the group’s website.

The Hatewatch Blog, which is run by the Intelligence Project of the Southern Poverty Law Center, uncovered that Houser posted about his fondness for Hitler, neo-Nazis and lone wolves on several online forums.

"Do not mistake yourselves for one minute, the enemy sees all posted on this website," he wrote on a site dedicated to the New York chapter of Greece's far-right Golden Dawn, which espouses fascist and neo-Nazi ideologies.

"I do not want to discourage the last hope for the best, but you must realize the power of the lone wolf, is the power that can come forth in ALL situations.Look within yourselves," he continued.

ScarletCajun Belligerent Webhead from Lafayette, La. Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Belligerent Webhead
#97018: Jul 24th 2015 at 11:27:37 AM

I'd like to apoligize to everyone. I lashed out of anger. I shouldn't have took it out any of you. This has just been a frustating time for eveyone down here.

Lafayette Strong
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#97019: Jul 24th 2015 at 11:28:29 AM

I am wary of anything that seems to too obviously confirm my existing biases when it comes to these matters, but it does look as if this dude is a classic right-wing nutjob who should never have been let within ten miles of a firearm.

edited 24th Jul '15 12:11:18 PM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
#97020: Jul 24th 2015 at 11:37:19 AM

[up][up] It's okay, I admit, though we should talk about these problems, it did seem inappropriate for somebody to be relieved about the killer being a certain identity, though thoughts cannot be helped.

Edit: Though I am ashamed to admit that after the Boston bombing,I still considered myself a Republican at the time, I was relieved that the bombers were Muslim and not right wing nuts, as MSNBC had been predicting with a certain amount of glee.

edited 24th Jul '15 11:43:06 AM by JackOLantern1337

I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#97021: Jul 24th 2015 at 12:12:21 PM

It is a sign of our divisions as a nation that we can witness such events and be "rooting" for the attacker to be someone that casts a bad light on our political opponents. It can't be helped, though.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#97022: Jul 24th 2015 at 12:14:08 PM

It can be helped. It just takes time and effort.

ScarletCajun Belligerent Webhead from Lafayette, La. Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Belligerent Webhead
#97023: Jul 24th 2015 at 12:14:53 PM

Going to be curious as to what possible security increases will happen for Mardi Gras and the other half a million festivals we have in and around the area.

Lafayette Strong
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#97024: Jul 24th 2015 at 12:37:56 PM

I'm sorry if my earlier comments were inappropriate. I just dread seeing any minority making the news for some big crime because I know the people around where I live will use it as proof that they're all evil.

For me at least, it's less about hoping to have some dirt on the other side and more about not wanting to see any more "justification" for burning crosses.

Oh really when?
BAFFU Since: Dec, 2012

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