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RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#96826: Jul 20th 2015 at 9:25:49 PM

How are policies supposed to affect their actions? All the problems The Wanderer mentioned are people acting harsher, more suspicious, or less respectful when dealing with non-white people. I'm not seeing how that's something you can legislate away.

Gabrael from My musings Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
#96827: Jul 21st 2015 at 4:41:15 AM

Education.

That requires funding approved by legislation.

Reform the justice system to make it illegal for a black man to get a harsher sentence than his white counterpart. Get rid of the war on drugs. Speak clearly on statistics. Order new studies. Crack down on hate speech and incitement.

This can help that easily.

edited 21st Jul '15 4:42:16 AM by Gabrael

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Lost in Space
#96828: Jul 21st 2015 at 5:02:06 AM

I'm pretty sure that justice reforms are on the table for all the Democratic candidates; indeed, they're on the table for the current office-holder.

edited 21st Jul '15 5:02:26 AM by Fighteer

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Xopher001 Since: Jul, 2012
#96829: Jul 21st 2015 at 8:13:53 AM

Have we talked about Cuba? I just read that full diplomatic relations have been restored with them. Does this mean we can import Cuban cigars?

Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#96830: Jul 21st 2015 at 8:17:01 AM

I do not think the Cuba thing is that much relevant to the United States, but it must be a huge deal for Cuba. Just the possibility of opening the market and other sort of stuff for a small country is huge.

But to the U.S it is a gigantic "meh".

edited 21st Jul '15 8:19:05 AM by Aszur

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Lost in Space
#96831: Jul 21st 2015 at 8:17:24 AM

Ugh. Cigars are disgusting. For my nostrils' sake, I hope they all stay in Cuba.

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NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#96832: Jul 21st 2015 at 9:07:31 AM

The people in America who care most about Cuba are, no surprise, Cuban-Americans. The funny thing is that most Cuban-Americans are people who fled Cuba after being persecuted by the Castro regime, or their kids/grandkids, and as such they tend to take a really hard-line stance regarding the US's relationship with Cuba. They'd much rather see the US do everything in its power to topple the current regime than anything like normalized relations, even though actually being able to travel directly and openly to Cuba again means they'll be able to see family members that they've been separated from for years-if-not-decades.

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#96833: Jul 21st 2015 at 9:20:48 AM

At this point I don't think the US can do anything to topple the current regime without invading them. Not exactly the best course of action.

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Lost in Space
#96834: Jul 21st 2015 at 9:22:04 AM

Indeed. Cuba's government will rise or fall on its own merits; we cannot (and should not) do anything about it. The days when it was acceptable for our government to topple the governments of other nations... wait, Iraq. Damn. Umm...

Okay, forget that. If history has proven anything, unremitting hostility towards an oppressive government only makes it dig in its heels tighter. If we are not prepared to invade, then we do far better to spread our ideals of democracy and free markets (*cough* like they're doing so well for us...) through open trade than through sanctions.

edited 21st Jul '15 9:24:45 AM by Fighteer

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#96835: Jul 21st 2015 at 9:23:59 AM

Iraq was also a catastrophic blunder. Unless the US is interested in conquering Cuba and taking control of it to ease the transition toppling the Castros will make everything worse.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#96836: Jul 21st 2015 at 9:24:57 AM

I'm sure these normalized relations will go a very long way in changing Cuba for the better anyway. Really the Cuban people are getting most of the benefit, we couldn't give less of a shit about whatever it is Cuba has to offer.

Oh really when?
Gabrael from My musings Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
#96837: Jul 21st 2015 at 9:28:55 AM

Normalizing relations with Cuba is also a step in getting our heads out of our asses about dark age policies.

We cut off Cuba because we could afford it. We kept cutting off Cuba because of tradition. We need to grow up and stop being the neighborhood asshole and just move on to more important issues.

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#96838: Jul 21st 2015 at 11:56:41 AM

Good luck getting that past Congress though. They're probably going to come out with some crap about how it proves Obama is a communist because he wants to support other communists.

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#96839: Jul 21st 2015 at 12:10:09 PM

Bit late, but its not like Cuban Cigars don't get sold overseas outside of the US. Wonder how good it would be for smaller manufactories who don't have the reach to go to europe, though.

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Keep Hope Alive
#96840: Jul 21st 2015 at 12:46:28 PM

You don't see Vietnamese Americans complaining and they're in the same boat.

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ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#96842: Jul 21st 2015 at 1:11:44 PM

[up]

Geez, that's the sort of shit that would have people up in arms if a group like Anonymous pulled it.

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Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#96843: Jul 21st 2015 at 1:15:56 PM

He's trying to make this into one of his stupid celebrity feuds. I can't say if this is going to help him or not, because a lot of Republicans nowadays love to spew hate at "establishment" figures, but Trump's going about it from a very unsubstantive angle.

Frankly his ability to succeed from this point forward will be an acid test of whether the GOP base has truly gone braindead, whether they are an average slice of America who happen to believe in bad policies, or if they are just stupid people who crave theatre and soundbites over anything resembling policy, because Trump doesn't seem to be pretending at policy with any of this.

Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#96844: Jul 21st 2015 at 1:16:16 PM

Considering the amount of shit that descended when Gawker did something similar, it's not just Anons that garner that reaction.

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Lost in Space
#96845: Jul 21st 2015 at 1:34:27 PM

From some interviews with Trump's supporters, they mainly like the idea of a businessman running the country because they buy into the ideas that "governments = businesses" and are supposed to run on balanced budgets, and that immigrants are "stealing our jerbs". They're willing to brush aside his blatant offensiveness if he can get those problems fixed.

This does not prove that they are stupid or crazy, but rather that they are victims of the utter failure of our educational system and our media.

edited 21st Jul '15 1:34:50 PM by Fighteer

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carbon-mantis Collector Of Fine Oddities from Trumpland Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Married to my murderer
Collector Of Fine Oddities
#96846: Jul 21st 2015 at 1:49:21 PM

From what I've seen recently, he's got a very curious Vocal Minority following in the military that I really didn't expect to see given his proclivities. Looking at them, they all seem to be fairly new guys in noncombat roles who support him because they think he'll "bring down the hammer on our enemies" or more specifically Mexico if they're the openly racist sorts.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#96847: Jul 21st 2015 at 1:51:22 PM

Well, he did promise that he has a secret recipe for "destroying ISIS", and that he'll reveal it once we elect him.

edited 21st Jul '15 1:52:35 PM by Fighteer

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#96848: Jul 21st 2015 at 1:53:02 PM

Is it something racist? I bet it's something racist.

edited 21st Jul '15 1:53:14 PM by LeGarcon

Oh really when?
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#96849: Jul 21st 2015 at 1:55:28 PM

I think he let slip in an interview once that it involves lots and lots of bombs and zero respect for the political sovereignty of any of Iraq's civilians. Because they have a failed state, so clearly they aren't worth respecting... never mind that the reason for that failure is that we invaded them.

edited 21st Jul '15 1:56:59 PM by Fighteer

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Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#96850: Jul 21st 2015 at 2:06:17 PM

Dang. I wonder what armyless nations like mine deserve under his eyes.

I would almost be worried, if he had a chance at winning something beyond my pity.

edited 21st Jul '15 2:10:08 PM by Aszur

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