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somerandomdude from Dark side of the moon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
#58376: Jul 14th 2013 at 7:17:04 PM

Yeah, I mean, its not like the other side did anything at all to paint Trayvon as a murdering gangbanger monster who nobody should give a shit about being dead.

You're absolutely right, they did not do this. What they did was expose Martin's predispositions to aggressive behavior, making Zimmerman's version of events, in which Martin attacked him, plausible.

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Morgikit Mikon :3 from War Drobe, Spare Oom Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#58377: Jul 14th 2013 at 7:21:38 PM

And then accused African Americans of being violent irrational people who would riot and loot if they didn't get their way...

deviantbraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#58379: Jul 14th 2013 at 7:54:40 PM

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yeah, those silly darkies. Cant trust them to not riot and smash stuff.

johnnyfog Actual Wrestling Legend from the Zocalo Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
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#58381: Jul 14th 2013 at 9:13:35 PM

What they did was expose Martin's predispositions to aggressive behavior, making Zimmerman's version of events, in which Martin attacked him, plausible.

My mother has been depressed all day long about the verdict. I politely pointed out that reasonable doubt is reasonable doubt, and that sometimes, a man can foolishly hand reasonable doubt over to his assailant. If you cross against the light and get struck by a car, the driver is not liable. If you draw blood from mall ninja, and he shoots you, he is also not liable.

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Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#58383: Jul 14th 2013 at 11:33:24 PM

Could there be an increase in racism or violence committed by Blacks against Hispanics due to the result of the Zimmerman trial?

edited 14th Jul '13 11:34:20 PM by Greenmantle

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AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#58384: Jul 14th 2013 at 11:42:00 PM

Again, Zimmerman is considered to be white. So no. Also, to even ask that question is ridiculous because there's thousands of cases like this and none of them seem to directly affect the level of black against hispanic or white violence. It just makes people really angry about the corrupt justice system. Mostly it seems to be inspiring protests rather than violence.

I also feel that as serious as this trial is, we're veering off topic a lot, so maybe we should try and redirect discussion of the Zimmerman trial as it relates to US politics. Which is the topic of the thread.

edited 14th Jul '13 11:43:18 PM by AceofSpades

Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#58385: Jul 14th 2013 at 11:44:23 PM

Again, Zimmerman is considered to be white.

Where I am, The BBC are explicitly calling Zimmerman Hispanic. It's part of the reason I asked. I also did hear about the protests.

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deviantbraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#58386: Jul 14th 2013 at 11:47:44 PM

Again, Zimmerman is considered to be white

Not according to the US census.

States balk at lower alcohol limit for DUI

edited 14th Jul '13 11:47:55 PM by deviantbraeburn

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Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#58387: Jul 14th 2013 at 11:52:24 PM

According to The Other Wiki, Zimmerman's half-Peruvian, and registered as Hispanic.

edited 14th Jul '13 11:53:19 PM by Greenmantle

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deviantbraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#58388: Jul 14th 2013 at 11:55:43 PM

Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott officially announces he's running for Texas governor.

This is the guy who threatened the UN during the 2012 Presidential election.

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DrunkGirlfriend from Castle Geekhaven Since: Jan, 2011
#58389: Jul 15th 2013 at 12:10:14 AM

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In the heat, about 300 supporters received yellow fans that read: “Fast cars, firearms & freedom. It’s a Texas thing.”

lolwut.

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deviantbraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#58390: Jul 15th 2013 at 12:12:49 AM

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I got a picture from Google Image.

And the real scary thing? This guy is most likely to be Texas' next Governor.

edited 29th Oct '13 3:25:35 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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DrunkGirlfriend from Castle Geekhaven Since: Jan, 2011
#58391: Jul 15th 2013 at 12:13:30 AM

Is that really his slogan? Really?

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AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#58392: Jul 15th 2013 at 12:18:37 AM

The Democrats are really going to have to step up their game in regards to gubernatorial elections. The last few have been really, really lackluster. Perry won mostly because he barely had to try.

Seriously, there seems to be an organization problem with Democrats in my state. Also, Screw that Abbot guy.

deviantbraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#58393: Jul 15th 2013 at 12:31:18 AM

Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) To Visit New Hampshire, Florida, Iowa

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tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
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#58394: Jul 15th 2013 at 1:44:35 AM

And the sad part is Abbott seems to be the most sane of the current crop of Republican contenders for governor.

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MidnightRambler Ich bin nicht schuld! 's ist Gottes Plan! from Germania Inferior Since: Mar, 2011
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#58395: Jul 15th 2013 at 3:52:28 AM

"Fast cars"? Germany would be all BITCH PLEASE.

Anyway, I've been reading some news stories about the Zimmerman trial... all this talk of a "jury" makes me sick. Like it's a fucking game show or a figure-skating contest. Do they hold up score cards when the prosecution and defence lawyers make their cases?

edited 15th Jul '13 3:53:32 AM by MidnightRambler

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deviantbraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#58396: Jul 15th 2013 at 4:02:41 AM

[up] What?

What's wrong with calling it a jury?

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MidnightRambler Ich bin nicht schuld! 's ist Gottes Plan! from Germania Inferior Since: Mar, 2011
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#58397: Jul 15th 2013 at 4:07:55 AM

It's not so much the word as the whole system of trial by jury. I know it's all a lot more nuanced than it looks and there are all kinds of checks and balances in place, but I still associate it with mob justice.

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joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
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#58398: Jul 15th 2013 at 4:13:33 AM

Perhaps but it is the best system we've got.

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Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#58399: Jul 15th 2013 at 4:14:36 AM

What would you do instead?

The right to a trial by a jury of one's peers is one of the fundamentals.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
MidnightRambler Ich bin nicht schuld! 's ist Gottes Plan! from Germania Inferior Since: Mar, 2011
Ich bin nicht schuld! 's ist Gottes Plan!
#58400: Jul 15th 2013 at 4:24:13 AM

Most of Europe is doing just fine without jury trials, thank you very much. Nothing fundamental about it.

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