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midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#58226: Jul 13th 2013 at 8:12:41 PM

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with a last name like Zimmerman, he certainly isnt hispanic enough for it to ever be noticed by the public at large.

he looks white. His name sounds white. Therefore he is white.

Same as Obama may be partially white, but he looks black, and has a foreign sounding name, therefore the public calls him black.

edited 13th Jul '13 8:16:39 PM by midgetsnowman

SomeNewGuy Since: Jun, 2009
#58227: Jul 13th 2013 at 8:13:52 PM

I am seriously fucking scared right now. One of my best friends lives in Florida (Gulfport), and the idea that he could get swept up in the fallout of this trial if riots do happen terrifies me.

edited 13th Jul '13 8:14:13 PM by SomeNewGuy

wuggles (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#58228: Jul 13th 2013 at 8:16:56 PM

[up][up][up] The racial thing is more about the fact that he killed a black boy and got off. Yeah Zimmerman is part Hispanic but the media isn't really treating it that way. Also the idea is that he was operating based on negative stereotypes about black people.

edited 13th Jul '13 8:18:10 PM by wuggles

midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#58229: Jul 13th 2013 at 8:17:57 PM

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Because as I pointed out. Part hispanic doesnt mean much when you look white and your name sounds white.

kraas Since: Nov, 2009
#58230: Jul 13th 2013 at 8:25:05 PM

[up][up] Trayvon Martin being profiled by George Zimmerman was at the core of this case, yet the use of the term was basically banned from the courtroom (see here). As you mention in an earlier post, if Trayvon had been white, things wouldn't have happened liked they did.

This has me...well, look at my avatar.

edited 13th Jul '13 8:25:51 PM by kraas

deviantbraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#58231: Jul 13th 2013 at 8:26:01 PM

[up][up][up] No one has rioted yet.

Sports world reacts to George Zimmerman verdict

edited 13th Jul '13 8:27:01 PM by deviantbraeburn

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midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#58232: Jul 13th 2013 at 8:27:20 PM

and already people on my facebook feed are defending the case as though race had nothing to do with it and the woman who got 20 would have happened just the same to a white girl.

wuggles (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#58233: Jul 13th 2013 at 8:30:36 PM

My cousin who lives in Brooklyn says that apparently people are just standing around outside, and some are lighting firecrackers or something like that (I hope it's that and not guns) and it's getting tense...

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#58234: Jul 13th 2013 at 8:31:38 PM

Gotta say that telling people to go kill themselves is no way EVER justified for any reason at all. so the dude that said that is pretty damn scummy.

But why did they feel the need to highlight athlete comments? They're pretty much the same as all other comments in this situation.

Hodor Cleric of Banjo from Westeros Since: Dec, 1969
midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#58236: Jul 13th 2013 at 8:37:05 PM

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because idiots like knowing what their favorite sports stars think.

deviantbraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#58237: Jul 13th 2013 at 8:40:06 PM

I'm still confused what "Stand Your Ground" laws have to do with this case.

I mean Stand Your Ground had nothing to do with Zimmerman's defense. His lawyers used a good old fashioned self defense argument.

edited 13th Jul '13 8:42:15 PM by deviantbraeburn

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joesolo Indiana Solo Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Indiana Solo
#58238: Jul 13th 2013 at 8:40:48 PM

@ midget- self defense isn't race related tongue

just gonna leave this here, for those of you whole still think he shot a kid for "carrying tea n skittles".

@wuggles- My Prayers go out to people in the cities, I REALLY hope this doesn't turn into riots.

edited 13th Jul '13 8:41:48 PM by joesolo

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midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#58239: Jul 13th 2013 at 8:41:18 PM

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because whether stand your ground or self defense, oddly neither of those defenses work when its a black guy using it and almost always work when a white guy uses it.

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It is when pretty much every white-middle class person on the earth assumes black kids in hoodies are suspicious and trail them despite police telling them not to. so you know. Thats the politest i can be right now to you, joe.

and neither of those looks like a goddamn serious injury to me.

Oh no, my nose is bleeding slightly and theres a few minor abrasions on my back of my head.

Grow a goddamn pair, pansy-ass middle class shitface.

edited 13th Jul '13 8:43:22 PM by midgetsnowman

wuggles (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#58240: Jul 13th 2013 at 8:41:59 PM

The celebrities thing reminds me of thisbit by Dave Chappelle. "FIND ME JA RULE SO I CAN MAKE SENSE OF ALL THIS!" But yeah, they always find celebrities for stuff like this. They never have anything great to say either (nor should they, it's not their job). I don't even want to see CNN's coverage of this...

Also the Stand Your Ground thing is basically the whole reason this case got so bungled from the start, IIRC they weren't even going to prosecute him because of that law.

edited 13th Jul '13 8:43:17 PM by wuggles

joesolo Indiana Solo Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Indiana Solo
#58241: Jul 13th 2013 at 8:44:53 PM

[up][up] My response

No. Just plain no. This isn't the 50s, our society is not that racist anymore. yea there's still assholes out there that are, but it's not at a societal level anymore. Get over yourselves.

edited 13th Jul '13 8:45:43 PM by joesolo

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midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#58242: Jul 13th 2013 at 8:45:42 PM

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if you believe that, I've got a bridge in manhattan for sale.

Racism never went away. it just went into hiding behind racial stereotypes and the internet.

if anything, its worse than in the 50's because at least in the 50's it was out in the open to see.

edited 13th Jul '13 8:46:43 PM by midgetsnowman

deviantbraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#58243: Jul 13th 2013 at 8:46:03 PM

Trayvon Martin’s Parents React To George Zimmerman Verdict

edited 13th Jul '13 8:46:51 PM by deviantbraeburn

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joesolo Indiana Solo Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Indiana Solo
#58244: Jul 13th 2013 at 8:47:29 PM

[up][up] And if you wren't being sarcastic, I'd be rich in a week on the overpriced tolls.

and those arn't minor abbrasions. have you watch the case? please answer honestly.

edited 13th Jul '13 8:47:38 PM by joesolo

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midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#58245: Jul 13th 2013 at 8:49:08 PM

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why would I? I knew from the moment it took them months to even start a case against him that the police gave zero shits about Trayvon's death regardless of guilt or innocence.

and Frankly, whikle those injuries may be more serious than they look, they look pretty minor from photographs.

joesolo Indiana Solo Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Indiana Solo
#58246: Jul 13th 2013 at 8:52:51 PM

[up] thats the problem. there were numerous experts and various witnesses that confirmed zimmerman's story. You chose to base this on race. Trayvon martin got zimmerman on the ground, and was sitting on top of him physically assaulting him. witnesses know zimmerman's injuries were the result of physically fighting. And that it was zimmerman calling for help on the 911 call , AND that it was trayvon that physically assaulted Zimmerman in the first place.

summary from the new york times. again, witnesses say he was struck multiple times by trayvon.

edited 13th Jul '13 8:54:47 PM by joesolo

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Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#58247: Jul 13th 2013 at 8:54:33 PM

Even if that were the case, Trayvon certainly shouldn't have died over this.

The more disgusting thing are the people who seem to be glad Trayvon's dead.

And that's really the point over this. Nobody's disputing the right to self-defense, they're perplexed over how, in a nominally civilized society, people have to die over questionable issues of self-defense

midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#58248: Jul 13th 2013 at 8:55:13 PM

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and that none of that wouldnt have happened if he hadnt been following a guy around a neighborhood specifically because he was black and in a hoodie and zimmerman hadnt's seen him before and police advised him to not confront the kid?

Cuz you know. even if Trayvon attacked first, no offense, but if i was in a neighborhood I didnt know being followed by someone? I think running or attacking first would be my options.

because lets face it, Black people dont exactly have a belief that the law will believe them. ever.

edited 13th Jul '13 8:55:59 PM by midgetsnowman

TairaMai rollin' on dubs from El Paso Tx Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Mu
rollin' on dubs
#58249: Jul 13th 2013 at 8:55:40 PM

[up]It never was an issue. To quote one blogger:"@instapundit So a Hispanic shoots a black and is acquitted by women, but it's still white men's fault."

The prosecutors bungled the case. It was all based on emotion. Zimmerman was a mall ninja, but Martin was a wannabe thug. This wasn't going to end well. Zimmerman would've been forgotten until some of the hustlers on the left and the right used this case to make political hay.

While the media and the politicians were so "focused" on a case that should never have gone to trial:

edited 13th Jul '13 8:56:33 PM by TairaMai

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KBSL Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Forming Voltron
#58250: Jul 13th 2013 at 8:56:43 PM

I think I should point out that "Hispanic" is not a race, there are of plenty of "Hispanic" people who consider themselves white and are considered white. Over 90% of Argentinians are white, owing to all of the Irish and Italian immigration and they're considered "Hispanic".


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