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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
@Barkey: Not in any explicit sense.
Also funny given how there are load and loads of passages about judgments being brought on a nation for their mistreatment of widows, orphans, and foreigners. I long to see a serious political debate about bringing back the biblical principles of gleaning and the Jubilee.
edited 12th Jul '13 11:15:07 AM by Tangent128
Do you highlight everything looking for secret messages?Eh, there are so many random things that made a person unclean. What you needed to to was bathe in a "Miqvah", a ritual bath with very specific rules about how to build it and how to fill it. Or you could swim in the Sea of Galilee.
For example, you were unclean if you were bleeding. And yes, that did have an effect on the women, but most people went to a miqvah every couple of weeks anyway, so it wasn't a huge deal.
Actually no. If it was consensual, like the woman shouldn't even have been able to meet the rapist, at all, and she was engaged, they would both be stoned. If the man forced her and she was betrothed to someone else, the man would be stoned and the woman would have to do a cleansing ritual, which didn't include a potion or anything. If the woman was not betrothed, the man would be forced to marry her. Apparently that threat actually kind of works.
The Biblical definition of rape is kind of wide.
edited 12th Jul '13 11:19:02 AM by Zendervai
I'd like to caution everyone about this become a thread about religion. We all know that "the Devil may quote Scripture for his own purpose", and it would seem rather obvious that not everyone who claims the Bible or any other holy book as their justification for committing horrendous acts is acting in good faith.
edited 12th Jul '13 11:28:29 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Honestly i do think some of the ideas of "Jubilee" would get traction in U.S. politics, at least among left-populists and left-anarchists: a massive debt writedown (or out and out elimination).
Hell, I do seriously think that a "student loan jubilee" is going to have to be proposed at some point. If student debt gets any worse, we could stare down decades of slow growth because the Millennials are either going to have bad credit, or the ones with good credit will do so by having all their income tied up in debt, which will mesh very poorly with our already soft opinions on car ownership and home ownership (the two biggest drivers of the consumer economy)
Poll: Voters blame GOP more than Obama for gridlock
Now let's hope they have learned something.
In other news, I found this "grade"
of a Republican letter against the Senate immigration bill hilarious.
House Republicans crafting DREAM Act-like immigration bill
Well it is highly doubtful global warming would wipe humankind off the face of the earth. Fuck up ecosystems and make it unsustainable for 7 billion of us, sure, but the sociopathic business interests causing it would likely be at the top of the pile once resources start getting crunched.
Destroying the entire planet and rendering it a completely unlivable wasteland from which no life, in any shape or form, will ever sprout again is a lot harder than some make it out to be. Life bounces back.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.True, but you'll forgive me if I'd rather not dwell on the difference between 100% of life dying and only 99%.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"![]()
It's actually almost happened several times in History, and life has recovered.
The largest extinction event, the Permian–Triassic extinction event
, killed up to 96% of all species.
edited 12th Jul '13 2:26:09 PM by Greenmantle
Keep Rolling OnObligatory Goldblum:
Trouble is, I don't really give a flying fuck about the monkeys that might inherit the planet from us - I care about humanity. Trouble is, we've already damaged the ecosystem so badly that it is no longer a question of "how can we preserve the ecosystem", it is "how can we prevent drastic climate change with the lowest possible impact". Look at the Yangtze River Dolphin.
edited 12th Jul '13 2:25:45 PM by Achaemenid
Schild und Schwert der ParteiIt's important to make the distinction between a complete extinction event and merely fucking up ecosystem too badly to support us all, because it's why business interests keep going ahead and doing it. Short of nuclear war, there's absolutely nothing they can cause that they won't be in a position to survive.
edited 12th Jul '13 2:35:02 PM by Pykrete
Eric Holder’s DOJ To Restrict Rules For Monitoring Journalists, Bar Labeling As ‘Co-Conspirators’
A small victory.
EDIT: Can someone please explain the Trayvon Martin case to me? I've tried to avoid it, because the relentless and prejudicial media examination of criminal cases before a verdict is in irritates me, but it seems to be absolutely everywhere atm.
edited 12th Jul '13 3:29:47 PM by Achaemenid
Schild und Schwert der ParteiChinese Official Cracks Joke About How U.S-China Relationship Is Like A Marriage
I'm pretty damn certain there's gonna be enough ecosystem left over to provide ecosystem services for Homo stupidus sapiens to survive even if you bring atmospheric carbon dioxide up to 1000 ppm.
Thing is, the process getting there won't be pretty. At all. It will probably involve lots of people fighting over resources, starving, and such. And also lots of places becoming inhabitable. And lots of infrastructure will have to be abandoned because it's built for purposes that don't work anymore (such as submerged subway lines) or in places that are inhabitable.
Also, totally wrecking much of the biodiversity, most likely. We'll be on our own for developing more productive/tolerance crop varieties or miracle drugs for quite a while, after that.
edited 12th Jul '13 3:44:47 PM by GlennMagusHarvey
We're going to cause drought and starve ourselves in large numbers long, long before we make the air anywhere near unbreatheable.
George Zimmerman is a guy on the neighborhood watch, following a kid named Trayvon Martin who may or may not have been a gangbanger. Police told Zimmerman to step off. He didn't and instead confronted Martin, it looks like Martin turned it physical (since all the non-bullet wounds were on Zimmerman), Zimmerman shot him in response.
The court case is now whether the killing was justified or not. People are yelling about Florida's Stand Your Ground law that lets you use lethal force in self-defense, yelling about Zimmerman being overly aggressive and kinda stalkery, yelling about Martin being a gangbanger, yelling about both, and generally lots of yelling.
edited 12th Jul '13 4:32:23 PM by Pykrete
I talked about this case at length with some friends this morning, one of them is a lawyer. It was an interesting conversation.
I felt that Zimmerman was in the wrong and should be found guilty of manslaughter, but at the same time I feel that there is a good chance that he will be acquitted because he didn't break any laws.
My lawyer friend essentially said that he's going to get off and that he didn't do anything wrong, because he has a right to walk around public spaces as he wishes.
My buddy who was with us and works for Jaguar-Landrover as a tech agreed with the Lawyer.
My friend who is retired agreed with me, with the exception that he felt that he would be found guilty, because "Society deems it."
Needless to say I await the verdict with interest. But a few of my friends, as well as the retired guy and the lawyer, all predict huge violent riots across big cities throughout the US if Zimmerman is not found guilty, which I think is stupid. South Florida will probably riot a bit, but I don't think LA or Oakland are really going to get that stirred up for something which happened in Florida. Just like LA didn't give enough of a shit about the BART cop to riot.
^
Not just a guy on neighborhood watch, a self-appointed guy on neighborhood watch. The reason I have so much anger towards Zimmerman is that he's essentially a poster child for the reason the Democratic Empire of Bloomberg pushes anti-gun legislation so hard. Assholes like Zimmerman who go around looking for trouble because they are armed instead of staying away from it despite being armed give gun owners a bad name, and anything that gives Herr Bloomberg more ammunition pisses me off.
edited 12th Jul '13 5:14:08 PM by Barkey

Florida Authorities Release PSAs To Warn Against Post-Zimmerman Trial Violence
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