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Pykrete NOT THE BEES from Viridian Forest Since: Sep, 2009
NOT THE BEES
#57551: Jul 2nd 2013 at 3:12:15 PM

Wasn't Russia's offer withdrawn?

EDIT: Oh, other way around. Snowden turned it down because he wasn't willing to put up with their condition of stopping.

edited 2nd Jul '13 3:14:43 PM by Pykrete

Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
V
#57552: Jul 2nd 2013 at 3:13:26 PM

Yes, it was.

Keep Rolling On
Barkey Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#57553: Jul 2nd 2013 at 3:17:38 PM

^

I was getting sick of that shit in Florida. People would just stride into the middle of the main drag, which had a 55 mph speed limit.

I try to be uber mindful when I drive, but when I'm on foot I ain't crossing the street unless it's absolutely empty and clear of cars for the most part, or I can make eye contact with stopped drivers at the intersection, using a stop light or a crosswalk. tongue

Only thing more obnoxious is bicyclists using the left lane... You aren't a car, use the fucking crosswalk instead of holding up traffic you asshat.

TheBatPencil from Glasgow, Scotland Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#57554: Jul 2nd 2013 at 3:37:30 PM

RE: using the phone while driving.

I think that the problem isn't so much with having a conversation while driving as it is holding a phone while driving. You only have two hands - you can't control the wheel, shift gear and hold a phone to your ear all at the same time. Even just having something in your hand stops you from properly holding the wheel or gear stick. That's why a hands-free device is often seen as a lesser offence.

edited 2nd Jul '13 3:37:57 PM by TheBatPencil

And let us pray that come it may (As come it will for a' that)
Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#57555: Jul 2nd 2013 at 3:37:47 PM

Jaywalking was really bad where I live until the police station put a few rookie cops on patrol. They arrested about 40 people in a day for jaywalking and people stopped. It was a really stupid place to jaywalk too. The highway exits really close, and it's a really major street.

[down] I'm Canadian, and yes, it's a crime here.

edited 2nd Jul '13 3:56:08 PM by Zendervai

GlennMagusHarvey Since: Jan, 2001
#57556: Jul 2nd 2013 at 3:37:55 PM

Well I think, as the Wikipedia article notes, you have to also redesign the roads to actually have roughly 20 mph speed limits (effectively or forcefully), or else you're just juxtaposing fast traffic with pedestrians.

And I think, to the chagrin of those of us when we drive, there are laws prohibiting bikers from using the sidewalk, at least in some jurisdictions (such as New York City).

^ Wait, jaywalking is a crime in the United States?

edited 2nd Jul '13 3:38:22 PM by GlennMagusHarvey

midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#57557: Jul 2nd 2013 at 3:42:16 PM

[up]

considering the US tends to have speeds of 30-40 intown (except on side roads) yeah..Jaywalking can be a bit..Not recommanded.

especially since a lot of drivers in the US have a massive entitlement complex about people walking even across crosswalks anyhow

edited 2nd Jul '13 3:52:21 PM by midgetsnowman

joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
Happy New Year!
#57558: Jul 2nd 2013 at 3:43:46 PM

It's a crime in lots of places.

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rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#57559: Jul 2nd 2013 at 3:53:53 PM

Technically it is illegal in NYC, but your chances of getting in trouble for it are fairly low unless it's particularly egregious.

Hugging a Vanillite will give you frostbite.
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#57560: Jul 2nd 2013 at 4:02:34 PM

Even where it's legal jaywalking can be pretty stupid. Though when your motorbike has just dropped its chain in between two lanes on a 70mph road you often don't have much join, those things are expensive. tongue

I motorbike so phone rules aren't really a think for me, I guess I could use my phone while ridding if I hooked everything up right (I use it as a GPS at times), but seeing as everyone's already out to get me I'd rather not.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#57561: Jul 2nd 2013 at 4:35:51 PM

At worst it would be a misdemeanor. "Felony jaywalking" would be a rather odd concept.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
DrunkGirlfriend from Castle Geekhaven Since: Jan, 2011
#57562: Jul 2nd 2013 at 4:43:17 PM

[up] Unless you're in Florida.

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GlennMagusHarvey Since: Jan, 2001
#57563: Jul 2nd 2013 at 5:18:05 PM

especially since a lot of drivers in the US have a massive entitlement complex about people walking even across crosswalks anyhow

...

especially since a lot of people in the US have a massive entitlement complex about everything anyhow

FTFY

I mean, seriously, our country (I'm a native U.S. citizen) sometimes appears to be built on the philosophy that everyone can, one day, get everything they want.

midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#57564: Jul 2nd 2013 at 5:24:56 PM

[up]

Not exactly.

Its built on the idea 'I" will get everything I want eventually. so fuck everyone else.

In short. Its built on a lie that we should crush everyone else now so they dont grab my stuff when I stop being one of them.

edited 2nd Jul '13 5:26:53 PM by midgetsnowman

joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
Happy New Year!
#57565: Jul 2nd 2013 at 5:36:53 PM

*Sniffs*

God bless America.

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GlennMagusHarvey Since: Jan, 2001
#57566: Jul 2nd 2013 at 5:54:43 PM

Well, to be fair, the U.S. is a relatively young country, and in much of our past, especially in the "pioneer" past, we were relatively unconstrained by resources such as land/space, water, (clean) air, minerals in the ground, and energy resources (be it trees or coal or whatever), and from them, we could relatively easily just strike it rich out somewhere where people hadn't been yet, so after a while of hard work and some (to be honest, a LOT of) luck, it was actually somewhat possible.

(Also, the winners get to tell their stories.)

But reality these days dictates that we don't live in those days anymore, and that we're a lot more resource-constrained than we once thought we were, both environmentally and financially. And that's why we're fighting each other over resources.

These problems will be solved to some extent by using our resources more efficiently — such as wasting less money, energy, water, etc. — but at some point we're going to have to learn how to make do with less.

And of course, having to make do with less raises lots of fairness questions, as those of us who are less well-off see the conspicuous consumption and/or hoarding behaviors of those of us who are more well-off, and feel quite reasonably resentful.

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#57567: Jul 2nd 2013 at 6:29:13 PM

German Company Using Snowden, NSA Spying To Promote Lingerie

Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
Barkey Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#57568: Jul 2nd 2013 at 6:31:22 PM

I think I'm cool with our speed limits, to be honest. Just don't use crosswalks unless it's a red light. tongue

That's how crosswalk buttons here work, it prioritizes making thru traffic of that junction stop, with the exception of people making right turns. For them you just have to make sure that you can look at their car and try to make eye contact, just to make sure they see you.

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#57570: Jul 2nd 2013 at 6:40:01 PM

Delaying it is a terrible idea. If people started to get benefits from this system they would be motivated to vote against people that could try to dismantle it. Now they risk letting a Republican majority get in power to repeal the thing.

edited 2nd Jul '13 6:40:09 PM by Kostya

NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#57571: Jul 2nd 2013 at 6:59:02 PM

I was getting sick of that shit in Florida. People would just stride into the middle of the main drag, which had a 55 mph speed limit.
Orlando is one of the most pedestrian-unfriendly cities in the country. A lot of people do that because they literally have no other option for crossing the street on foot. It was on the news for a few weeks a while ago when the report initially came out (though it's been swamped by 24-hour Zimmerman trial coverage recently).

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.
midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#57572: Jul 2nd 2013 at 7:53:09 PM

[up][up][up]

Translation: we're going to do our damndest to tie the law up in as many money wasting things as we can for years in the hopes we can paint the program as a big money waster.

Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#57573: Jul 2nd 2013 at 8:18:57 PM

Wonder if Snowden couldn't go to Switzerland. I mean, this is the place that harbored Vladimir Lenin and Rosa Luxemburg back in the day.

Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#57574: Jul 2nd 2013 at 8:29:19 PM

[up]How much money does he have? (No: serious question — if he buys Swiss citizenship, he's golden.)

Switzerland may do it for the publicity, if there's a feeling they need to brush up the neutrality image in a big way and it's unlikely to hit the bottom line too grievously. Or, he outright buys entrance: you buy the paper, they'll back you up to the hilt, regardless. <shrugs>

The Swiss: and, you thought they stopped being mercenaries a few centuries ago and turned a fluffy grey... wink

edited 2nd Jul '13 8:35:43 PM by Euodiachloris

Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#57575: Jul 2nd 2013 at 8:35:00 PM

Swiss citizenship can be bought? Didn't know that.


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