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deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#57476: Jul 1st 2013 at 5:31:56 PM

Hillary Clinton is too old to be president, says party who still honors President Ronald Reagan, oldest president in history.

edited 1st Jul '13 5:32:10 PM by deathpigeon

RadicalTaoist scratching at .8, just hopin' from the #GUniverse Since: Jan, 2001
scratching at .8, just hopin'
#57477: Jul 1st 2013 at 5:33:02 PM

Barkey, do you have to do stuff for us to assume that you didn't kill children in Iraq and don't beat minorities for kicks here at home? That shit about stereotypes cuts both ways. How about we don't assume unfounded shit about people because of their background, okay?

Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.
Barkey Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#57478: Jul 1st 2013 at 5:36:07 PM

^

You're free to believe whatever you want to believe, though I highly doubt that even the most anti-mil folks out there think we burglarize houses on a regular basis.

The thing I resent is acting like Trayvon was some innocent kid. Zimmerman is stone guilty in my opinion, and being found as such for murder is what he deserves, but people are acting like Trayvon was some kind of angel. The majority of the time if it looks like a duck and sounds like a duck, it's a duck. Assumptions aren't always a bad thing.

midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#57479: Jul 1st 2013 at 5:41:53 PM

I'd point out the fact marco Rubio is hip enough to bother being idealistic about immigration is murdering his election chances.

RadicalTaoist scratching at .8, just hopin' from the #GUniverse Since: Jan, 2001
scratching at .8, just hopin'
#57480: Jul 1st 2013 at 5:56:26 PM

[up][up] Most of us aren't angels. But as you've noted, that doesn't mean we deserve to die.

Also, regarding assumptions not being a bad thing: do you think the assumptions Zimmerman brought into the encounter had any effect on his actions? Particularly if he made assumptions about Trayvon much like those you're making now?

Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.
joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
Happy New Year!
#57481: Jul 1st 2013 at 5:58:10 PM

No.

Sticking to your guns Barkey. I respect that.

@Re:Tammy Duckworth. Got to respect anyone who made it through middle school with that name let alone bleed in war. Still it's not like the guy's claim was fraudulent on anything.

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Morgikit Mikon :3 from War Drobe, Spare Oom Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Mikon :3
#57482: Jul 1st 2013 at 6:11:57 PM

Don't want to be treated like a walking stereotype? Don't dress like one and flash pictures of weed and guns. Don't act like a gangbanger if you aren't one and nobody will ever assume you are one. It's kind of like if living down here I wore knee-high white socks, shaved my head, wore a white wifebeater and khaki shorts pulled up, and had a thick mustache. Most regular folk would be immediately rather suspicious of me right off the bat for that. Doing shit like that is like saying "Hey look, be suspicious of me!"

So having a gun makes you look suspicious? Hmm...

The thing I resent is acting like Trayvon was some innocent kid. Zimmerman is stone guilty in my opinion, and being found as such for murder is what he deserves, but people are acting like Trayvon was some kind of angel.

Wasn't an angel =/= deserved to get shot.

edited 1st Jul '13 6:13:34 PM by Morgikit

joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
Happy New Year!
#57483: Jul 1st 2013 at 6:16:27 PM

It's kind of like if living down here I wore knee-high white socks, shaved my head, wore a white wifebeater and khaki shorts pulled up, and had a thick mustache. Most regular folk would be immediately rather suspicious of me right off the bat for that.

Is that a non sequitur or is that actually a stereotype where you are?

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DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#57484: Jul 1st 2013 at 6:27:58 PM

Rand Paul Takes On ‘Amnesty’ Opponents: ‘Do They Want Us To Put Illegals In Concentration Camps?’

Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#57485: Jul 1st 2013 at 6:30:24 PM

My guess is that no, amnesty opponents dont want concentration camps. They just think the USA would somehow improve if we took every single illegal, forced them out of their homes and lives at gunpoint, and threw them across the border.

nevermind that'd likely shatter entire communities, seperate citizen children from illegal parents, and cause all sorts of nasty economic effects from vacated jobs.

edited 1st Jul '13 6:31:28 PM by midgetsnowman

deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#57486: Jul 1st 2013 at 6:32:00 PM

Concentration camps? No. Send them back to where they came from? Yes.

midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#57487: Jul 1st 2013 at 6:33:52 PM

[up] yep. which completely ignores there might not be a "where they came from" to go back to and that economies kind of crack and implode when major parts of the workforce simply vanish..but..

edited 1st Jul '13 6:34:02 PM by midgetsnowman

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#57488: Jul 1st 2013 at 6:34:20 PM

Wasn't an angel =/= deserved to get shot.

You = ignoring that Barkey specifically said that Trayvon didn't deserve to get shot. If you're going to argue with Barkey than try not to put words in his mouth.

Edit: I've gone and dug the exact quote up for you, post 57383 on page 2296.

Trayvon was a little gangbanger piece of shit who probably didn't handle Zimmermans provocation well, but didn't deserve to die for that.

edited 1st Jul '13 6:39:05 PM by Silasw

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deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#57489: Jul 1st 2013 at 6:47:59 PM

[up][up] Shhhhhh... Don't bring logic into this.

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#57490: Jul 1st 2013 at 6:50:17 PM

Paul Ryan kisses fish.

Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
GlennMagusHarvey Since: Jan, 2001
#57491: Jul 1st 2013 at 7:34:06 PM

Re Tammy Duckworth: She's not a senator, she's a representative. But yeah, she's pretty awesome.

Morgikit Mikon :3 from War Drobe, Spare Oom Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Mikon :3
#57492: Jul 1st 2013 at 7:50:48 PM

Thank you for bringing that shit up again, Silas. I'd almost managed to get it out of my head.

I'm just trying to figure out why he feels the need to tell us Martin had a reputation. They're trying the guy who shot him, not recommending him for canonization.

Barkey Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#57493: Jul 1st 2013 at 8:06:52 PM

Is that a non sequitur or is that actually a stereotype where you are?

No, I'm being serious, that's an actual look that is often correctly associated with criminal behavior where I live.

I'm maybe a few blocks away from Colonia, so there's a pretty significant deal of gang activity in my neighborhood. At least where I live, if you look like a gangbanger, you probably are one.

edited 1st Jul '13 8:14:17 PM by Barkey

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#57494: Jul 1st 2013 at 8:09:22 PM

Jeb Bush: Republicans must 'cease being the obstacle' to immigration reform

Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#57495: Jul 1st 2013 at 10:25:52 PM

[up]He's trying to make me like him. I'm scared. <_<

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#57497: Jul 1st 2013 at 11:09:24 PM

On which data points is that claim based upon?

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Pykrete NOT THE BEES from Viridian Forest Since: Sep, 2009
NOT THE BEES
#57498: Jul 1st 2013 at 11:23:39 PM

Other than that it's pretty common practice in large agencies to get a bigger budget the next year?

I mean I'd like to see a breakdown of evidence, but it's nothing unheard of.

edited 1st Jul '13 11:23:59 PM by Pykrete

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#57499: Jul 1st 2013 at 11:35:14 PM

Some more election related news: Democrats get top remaining recruit in Kentucky Senate race.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
GlennMagusHarvey Since: Jan, 2001
#57500: Jul 2nd 2013 at 12:31:17 AM

Hey Deviant Braeburn, I've been meaning to ask: Are you a fan of Jeb Bush? Given your "JEBAGEDDON 2016" signature.


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