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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
They do not remember the old saying relating to Nazis about how eventually when they came for me,no one could help.
I'm sorry I don't remember it verbatim right now,but it started off with the Commies,then the gays,the other races,then the Jews,...and so on and so on.
This applies here,and it's why the GOP is floundering and somehow losing the minorities even more.
edited 29th Jun '13 7:13:00 PM by Meklar
Join my forum game!It's a disturbingly poignant quote these days. So much injustice, and so much apathy and demonization to enable injustice. I just hope America doesn't go down as destructively as the old 20th-century fascists did.
Join my forum game!Uh... I'm pretty sure that most people just go to college locally. I mean, my first school was definitely a state school. Not everyone is going to want to apply to Harvard.
Plus I'm not sure what you mean by welfare money. I don't think most states have that unless you mean student loans.
edited 29th Jun '13 7:42:38 PM by AceofSpades
@Ace Of Spades: I mean that it's cheap enough that someone living on Social Security Disability can afford to go if they're careful about expenses and have limited assistance from family.
Again, maybe Alaska just has a Republican Party that knows how to keep the votes bought.
edited 29th Jun '13 7:47:13 PM by Ramidel
Yeah, folks can't do that in Texas. I'm pretty sure that Alaska is a mutant aberration in that respect in America.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/06/24/1218422/-Hostess-but-not-its-workers-makes-a-comeback#
Apparently Hostess is coming back?
I have such a weird relationship with Daily Kos. I really like it's creator, but most of their writers are obnoxious as fuck. I guess it's fair to say that what happened to Hostess is very possibly executive mismanagement, I'm no friend of executive class folk, but they have such a snide and pissed off tone on that site all the time.
Ironically as well I've found is that lots of followers at the Kos don't like the military, and it's founder did time in the Army and loved it. He used the same logic I sometimes use to annoy the shit out of co-workers where I bring up that the military is a socialist paradise.
edited 29th Jun '13 8:22:32 PM by Barkey
About black opposition to gay marriage...
As someone who's black and gay, I've seen it first hand. I'd say the black community is about 15 years behind the rest of the country when it comes to LGBT.
Despite being staunch democrat supporters, the black community is quite religiously conservative. There is a very large percentage of overlay between the black community and the conservative southern baptist community.
The black community is on average further to the right than the majority of democrats in topics such as abortion, LGBT issues, and sex education.
If the republican party ever made an actual effort to ditch it's racist sections and stopped using race scares as a method of rallying the base, they would likely see a larger share of the black vote swing their way. It wouldn't cause a majority break, but it would go a long way to swing some.
I don't think it would give them a majority of minority votes, but I think it would break the democrat hegemony. I imagine it would be enough to tilt a few of the swing states toward the right, and slow down the purpleing of places like Texas.
Obama won Virginia in the 2012 election by about .3 percent after all, for example.
And plenty of working class whites and the elderly favor the republicans over the democrats due to social issues, despite being more economically vulnerable and likely recipients of democrat social programs so I think it within the realm of feasibility.

They do? I did not know that. I've never heard of a black preacher speaking out against gay marriage but I've seen tons of white ones.