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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
This probably has already been linked
, but wow. He shouldn't have stooped to this level.
And as one Tumblr user pointed out
, his "the louder they scream, the more we know we are getting something done" comment is contributing to rape culture, not to mention it's demonizing the other side.
It's too bad there's little we can help concerning the political turmoil Texas is suffering. But regardless of whatever you opposed or supported the bill, its backers' practices and defenses have been unethical and harmful, and we must draw attention to what's happening to help stop future occurrences like this.
While Texas tried to pass its own anti-abortion omnibus bill, Ohio succeeded in doing so through the legislature at least.
The bill would require that the facility providing abortion services disclose how much money they make off of abortions, talk about how much pain the fetus would feel (even though there's virtually no conclusive proof that the fetus feels any pain before the third trimester), tell the patient that abortion and breast cancer are linked (it isn't, any more than not having children and breast cancer are linked), requires an ultrasound which the patient is forced to watch while the doctor humanizes the fetus (even going so far as to describe how many fingernails it has), and doubles the wait time.
All of it meant to scare or guilt women into not having an abortion. Or make the provider look eeeeevil.
edited 27th Jun '13 9:50:19 PM by Enkufka
Very big Daydream Believer. "That's not knowledge, that's a crapshoot!" -Al Murray "Welcome to QI" -Stephen FryRepublican lawmaker to NFL and NBA: Don't do ObamaCare's 'dirty work'
edited 27th Jun '13 10:38:56 PM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016Ace said my viewpoint on assimilation better than I could.
America will eventually become Hispanic-majority (predominantly Mexican and Central American) and be heavily influenced by said Hispanic culture. I'm cool with that. English as a first language is not going away, neither is the American Dream (that'll only go away if we stop letting immigrants in), and neither are our constitutional freedoms. Hell, Mexicans are partly coming to America because they want in on said American Dream.
The Ohio bill will probably be slapped down in the courts due to a few constitutional violations even my eye can spot. Till then women will just have to hit 'nother state.
Is using "Julian Assange is a Hillary butt plug" an acceptable signature quote?Paul Krugman had a lot to say on Obama's climate proposal in his weekly column
. Essentially, it's exactly what we need, since it's going to force businesses to invest in new plants, infrastructure, and generally spend money, and spending money is exactly what we need right now in a demand-driven depression.
In an ordinary environment, rising costs due to regulation would cause economic contraction, but in this situation, they don't, because the economy is demand constrained, not supply constrained.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"![]()
Well, yeah, but trying to convince those kind of voters Obama isnt a communist muslim atheist stalinist nazi fascist dictator is impossible anyhow.
which only happens because we're so damned lazy as a country we prefer buying cheap shit even if its only cheap if its been offshored to a third world country where human rights are a suggestion instead of a rule.
edited 28th Jun '13 8:04:25 AM by midgetsnowman
How would you move electricity production overseas, exactly? You can't ship it on boats.
Anyway, the Republicans can't kill this because it's all being done under the President's powers to enact regulation. He can direct the EPA to declare carbon a toxin/pollutant (if it hasn't already) and do everything he needs from there. The best part is that Congress can't stop him because any law to do so would be vetoed by Obama, if it even passed the Senate.
Essentially he's got three free years to address climate change.
edited 28th Jun '13 8:06:40 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"![]()
Power companies are in it to make money like anyone else. If they abandon their duty to supply electricity, fuel, etc., then they lose income, and that's not going to fly with the shareholders.
Obama has them by the danglies, here. He always has, but so far had been putting his hopes in Congress. Not any more, it seems.
I wonder, too. All I can think of is that he finally listened to the people who were telling him all along that the GOP would never, ever play ball.
edited 28th Jun '13 8:21:05 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"So shuttering older plants reduces capacity. That's why you build more plants. I'm not seeing the logic in that article.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Welp: I'm used to rolling blackouts. It'll be a blast from the past. <shrugs>
Frankly, inertia will mean nothing will get done until the system really starts to show the strain in a way that nobody can deny.
It's... things like this that make me wonder just how smart it was to privatise the energy sector in the first place. <ponders>
edited 28th Jun '13 8:40:58 AM by Euodiachloris

We could also increase job growth by encouraging growth in the energy sector; training coal miners and such in how to install solar panels and shit. And building trains and buses, and hiring people to run those things. All sorts of crap that doesn't rely on climate change.
http://www.salon.com/2013/06/27/a_no_lose_fix_for_the_voting_rights_act/
Some thoughts on the VRA and what could come of trying to push a universal version of section 4 that got struck down.