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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
On the immigration issue, Senate votes 68-32 to end debate on immigration; 4 p.m. final vote
Another thing is that this is being run in a special session of the Texas senate, called when one of the Democratic state senators was away for the funeral of a close family member, and thus subject to different rules. Basically, Governor Goodhair was trying to pull a fast one during a period that, IIRC, state senators are supposed to be on vacation.
EDIT: BTW, Braeburn?
If you have to choose between prosperity and cultural assimilation? Prosperity any day of the week and twice on Sundays please.
edited 27th Jun '13 11:54:07 AM by RadicalTaoist
Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.Caution: the plural of "anecdote" is not "statistics".
Exactly why the filibuster should be restored to its original and hardcore level. If you want to make a filibuster, GET UP AND SPEAK AND KEEP SPEAKING.
http://www.forwardprogressives.com/rick-perry-takes-disgusting-jab-at-wendy-davis/
Oh look. it took Rick perry less than a week to belittle Wendy Davis as best he could.
So...that whole IRS targeting scandal...apparently not a scandal at all...
http://www.salon.com/2013/06/27/issas_irs_scandal_quietly_crumbles/
You Never Asked always leads to people misunderstanding things.
"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."In other news, the Senate immigration bill has just passed
the Senate with 68 to 32 votes.
Two votes short of the majority they wanted.
Now it's the House's time to operate, and so far they are at the "only with the majority of the majority" and "Chirping Crickets" stage.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanIssa... dear Issa. When will people learn not to trust anything he says? What a goddamn snake.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"@Radical
The Irish, Italian, and German immigrants assimilated and the Immigration System was as broken then as it is was toady (if not more so).
My god... They're actually arguing for Global Warming.
edited 27th Jun '13 6:19:31 PM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016I'm not arguing against immigration reform.
I'm arguing against:
This is the comment my "That would be horrible for assimilation effort." remark was aimed at.
I see this as going to far.
Ann Coulter Calls For Primaries Against More Than 25% Of The Republicans In The Senate
edited 27th Jun '13 6:28:56 PM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016Ann Coulter was a nutjob before the Tea Party was an issue. She's been around for a while.
@Deviant; but they've got a point. And you've failed to illustrate how that would be terrible for assimilation. If those people are moving here permanently we're going to get parts of their culture regardless, like we did all those Germans and Italians etc, and they and their children are going to end up learning English and abiding by American laws. Or deal with the consequences of not doing so.
How much of an immigration system was there back when the Irish and such came over? *goes to chck*
According to The Other Wiki, the US had no restrictions on immigration (different from citizenship) until 1875.
Edit: Until 1903 the limits were only on Asians and convicts. Hell even that only added "anarchists, people with epilepsy, beggars, and importers of prostitutes." to the banned list. It wasn't until 1917 that the US imposed reeding tests and further expanded the list of banned people. Quotas weren't added till 1921.
edited 27th Jun '13 6:58:26 PM by Silasw
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranRegarding the climate change thing: I think it would cause job creation, in the middle of the States. When the biggest cities in the US are on the coast, climate change would turn out really badly. There are a very few first world countries that wouldn't be hugely adversely affected, and the US is near the top of the list.
Y'know, a lot of things produce job creation, employment, and economic growth effects. Not all of them are good. I think one such example is the "broken window fallacy", where you have a temporary boost to economic activity and employment created by a disaster. Furthermore, even if we're talking permanent employment, gross jobs growth is different from net jobs growth which is different from job losses. And it's job losses that are what hurts individuals and families and social stability.

Also FWIW Wendy Davis had to contend with a lot more rules and restrictions then a federal filibuster requires.
Edit: Ninja'd to hell.
edited 27th Jun '13 11:57:41 AM by occono
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