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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Ah, that's a good point. As much as it sucks, it would have been impossible to do it at that time.
Republicans wanted the New Deal dead and the relationship with southern racists was shaky at best. Their rapid shift to the Republicans in the early-70s is proof of that. It would have destroyed the New Deal if they had done that.
edited 26th Jun '13 1:15:18 PM by Completion
What would your imigration policy be? Mine would be to make it possible for them to legally get in, and thus pay taxes and stuff as well as be able to live a much better life, and have a way for people already here to become citizens somehow. And close the border.
edited 26th Jun '13 1:47:38 PM by Ringsea
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I think closing the border is effectively impossible. Its too long and too hard to equip the entire thing with any sort of barrier. Therefore it'll just drive people to try to cross on the most inhospitable regions.
I think it would help a lot if immigration wasnt damned near impossible to legally obtain, though. And I'm not saying we shouldnt have any border security, but its a pipe dream to believe we can "secure the border" more than we already have.
so if anything,. My policy would be to redo immigration law to be a bit more inclusive while giving us ways to legally check if someone had ties to organized crime. Past that there isnt a lot more I think would be financially or manpower-ly feasible.
Besides. Most illegals are illegal specifically because getting in legally is a bitch
edited 26th Jun '13 1:52:25 PM by midgetsnowman
Thats..pretty much impossible short of figuring out some way to save South and Latin america from themselves.
Latinos of all countries generally try to cross for the same reason whether theyre mexican , peruvian, or guatemalan (or anything else) Because most of latin and south america is a hellhole if you arent rich or a criminal.
edited 26th Jun '13 1:53:56 PM by midgetsnowman
Stop the War on Drugs. That's the quickest way to make a big change in Mexico. Legalize Pot and make it so that drugs can no longer be such a major import into the US that they fuel drug empires across the border.
Legalize pot and stop the War on Drugs and you'll cut down on a lot.
For the rest of it? Stop growing any crops in the US because as long as we do, we'll need to keep having illegals in the country or the food will just rot on the vine. We know that to be fact.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. DickEnding the War on Drugs and legalizing or at least decriminalizing casual drug use would fix a huge amount of what's wrong with Mexico. It also needs military and financial aid to restore its institutions and the rule of law.
Agricultural migrant workers should be encouraged; we aren't going to stop needing fruit pickers, but we can at least make it legal.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"yeah. pretty much the major driver of illegal immigration is that while America has its share of problems in how it treats the poor and the minorities..at least you can be sure el presidente isnt an outright dictator building his country on the back of starving peasants, or that the police arent all on the local drug lords payroll.
Both of which are rather common situations in latin america.
edited 26th Jun '13 2:05:17 PM by midgetsnowman
I think Australia gets illegal immigrants from all parts of Asia, which makes since they're a lot closer than South America.
To bring up a previous issue I'm still not sure on: has the SB 5 thing and are they trying to put on like it was legitimately passed? Because I've heard they voted on it after midnight and tried counting votes of people who left or refused to vote, yet there's already a petition up on whitehouse.org trying to scuttle something that might already be scuttled.
Ace: That was put up while they still didn't know if it had passed or not and only knew that the republicans had tried something shitty. It didn't pass, because Rick Perry is going to try to convene a special session of the legislature to pass the bill.
Very big Daydream Believer. "That's not knowledge, that's a crapshoot!" -Al Murray "Welcome to QI" -Stephen FryMarines leader: 8,000 troops will go if sequester persists into next fiscal year
Senator Rubio calls Tea Party attacks on immigration 'a real trial for me'
Sarah Palin: Primary Marco Rubio, Kelly Ayotte For Support Of Immigration Reform
"“This isn’t about becoming a Washington dealmaker,” he said. “Truthfully, it would have been a lot easier to just sit back, vote against any proposal and give speeches about how I would have done it differently.”"
Sad thing Rubio? Thats exactly what the Tea Party wanted you to do.
Thats all they want anyone to do.
So while kind of off-topic I've always wondered, why exactly would legalizing pot/stopping the war on drugs cause the cartels to die?
Surely they can sell drugs cheaper and/or less safe but more addictive ones than any legal entity would/could, not to mention all the other criminal operations they already have/could have. So why would they die out?
Part of it is I think pot's one of the biggest things being illegally transported. Yeah, they can bring over the more dangerous stuff, but this still would at least temporarily weaken their hold. Course, that's not the only reason people want pot legalized; they argue it will strengthen local economies and all.
Really it wouldn't be a cure all and most people know this. The situation with Mexico requires us to do multiple things.
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The main reason it'd hurt the cartels is pretty simple.
if its legal to grow pot,. then local growers can produce it.
If local growers can produce it, then they can ship it to local stores for far less than it costs to sneak it across the border. This hits the price and kills the viability of profit when you can either get "cheaper" but likely cut to all hell illicit marijuana, or relatively cheap, 100% marijuana with FDA standards assuring its safety.
edited 26th Jun '13 3:08:14 PM by midgetsnowman

And segregated Doctors, and Nurses and staff? Sounds like a organizatory nightmare.
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