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AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#55801: Jun 5th 2013 at 4:48:32 PM

Considering their methods to prevent blacks from voting overwhelmingly affects black and latino voters.... yeah I'm comfortable with continuing to consider them racist. I'll stop doing that when they stop supporting and enacting policies that are racist in execution and start punishing those that say overwhelmingly racist things.

GlennMagusHarvey Since: Jan, 2001
#55802: Jun 5th 2013 at 5:39:30 PM

They're not racist. They just absolutely hate people who don't support them, and the set of people who don't support them just conveniently includes most voters of racial minorities, so they just conveniently set up them the voting difficulties specifically designed to discourage these racial minorities because that would be politically advantageous.

Alternatively, they're racist.

Protip: If not enough people are supporting your side, re-examine your position, then get your side to turn out more. Jerk.

edited 5th Jun '13 5:40:03 PM by GlennMagusHarvey

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#55803: Jun 5th 2013 at 6:32:03 PM

"Evolution doesn't exist because monkeys can't talk."

Did it ever occur to you that that's one of the things that makes humans special? Our brains are larger and more developed than most other animals for a reason.

edited 5th Jun '13 6:32:31 PM by Kostya

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#55804: Jun 5th 2013 at 6:53:54 PM

To be fair, the FULL quote from Ken Emanuelson was "Well to be perfectly honest, the Republican Party doesn't want black people to vote if they're going to vote Democrat."

While that's better than I expected it's still got some nasty implications to it. Why does he still want me to vote even if I vote Democrat but he doesn't want you to vote if you'd vote Democrat? Why is he okay with white people voting democrat but not black people? There's plenty of racist overtones there.

edited 5th Jun '13 6:54:16 PM by Silasw

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
terlwyth Since: Oct, 2010
#55805: Jun 5th 2013 at 6:57:07 PM

[up] He probably assumes no white people for Dems anymore Silasw,no real white people,ya' know the commie-pinko-librul-atheist-muslim-gays don't count. This in turn means it must be the minorities fault the GOP ain't winnin'.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#55806: Jun 5th 2013 at 7:01:18 PM

[up]To be fair he's kind of right. White people voted overwhelmingly for Romney, even the younger ones. It's the minorities and women that gave Obama his win.

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#55807: Jun 5th 2013 at 7:06:33 PM

[up]Women aren't white?

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#55808: Jun 5th 2013 at 7:13:38 PM

[up]Not all of them.

Why are you even asking that? I don't see what in my comment implies they aren't.

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#55809: Jun 5th 2013 at 7:17:26 PM

[up]You said that white people pretty much all voted for Romney, but (roughly) half of white people are women, and women voted overwhelmingly for Obama, as did LGBT people, many of whom are also white and I think Obama won the youth vote, which is also part white. I'm just failing to see how white people voted overwhelmingly for Romney unless you don't include women, young people and LGB Ts in your selection of white people.

Now if you want to talk about people who identify themselves politically as white then sure, but that's not people who are white in colour, it's people who define themselves by being a white guy.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#55811: Jun 5th 2013 at 7:24:44 PM

[up][up]Actually after looking at the exit polls I noticed that women and young people only supported Obama by such a wide margin because of the minorities in those groups. If the election was whites only Obama would have lost every demographic.

I can't find anything on LGBT people but I assume it was an Obama landslide for them. I didn't count them because they're a minority.

edited 5th Jun '13 7:25:23 PM by Kostya

TheStarshipMaxima NCC - 1701 Since: Jun, 2009
NCC - 1701
#55812: Jun 5th 2013 at 7:44:55 PM

I looked at the quote only the context of the quote, and the fact that as far as every politician/political party is concerned; yes, the smart voters are the ones who support them, and the stupid voters are the ones who don't support them.

With that said, looking at it in light of voter-suppression efforts........I can see the problem.

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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#55813: Jun 5th 2013 at 7:51:18 PM

[up][up] But would Romney have won overwhelmingly (in the individual demographics)?

[up]But then why mention black people? What significance does it have?

edited 5th Jun '13 7:52:46 PM by Silasw

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AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#55814: Jun 5th 2013 at 8:05:40 PM

But of many of women are minorities, doesn't that mean the majority of women voters were white and they still voted overwhelmingly for him?

Anyway, can someone explain the Eric Holder thing to me in simple terms? Because I'm having a hard time understanding that currently.

[up][up]When considering what a particular man says, you should also consider in the context of the group he aligns himself with. And the group this guy is with... has been pretty much trying to cover up their racism very badly.

Wildcard Since: Jun, 2012
#55815: Jun 5th 2013 at 8:06:13 PM

I wish the the Republican politicians would try to distance themselves from the Tea Party.

KBSL Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Forming Voltron
#55816: Jun 5th 2013 at 8:20:56 PM

This may be kinda old, but I've always wondered. While on Yahoo a while ago I constantly read people posting about Michelle Obama hating white people and being a black nationalist radical, while Obama's aunt and uncle were living in the country illegally on food-stamps. Now, I'm sure it's nothing but craptastic hyperbole considering where it was coming from, but I was wondering, what little thing did these people take completely out of context to make them seem like total white-people hating criminals.

Edit: Also, on the preferences of voters in the 2012 election, LGBT people probably went for Obama so much in droves in large part probably because minorities are more likely to identify as LGBT than white people are.

Edit: Yes, but as a whole the majority of white people in all age groups voted for Romney. I'm just wondering about the effects that could have if this were to hypothetically happen.

edited 5th Jun '13 10:11:39 PM by KBSL

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#55817: Jun 5th 2013 at 8:33:50 PM

I don't know anything about an aunt and uncle, but his father was from Kenya and as far as I know never became a US citizen. Also he lived in India or something as a child and participated in local customs, presumably because his mother wanted him to experience and learn about the culture of the place they were in. Everything else is made up bullshit.

Seriously, crackpots don't need actual facts. They'll just make stuff up.

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#55818: Jun 5th 2013 at 8:47:43 PM

[up]

Indonesia not India.

Report: NSA collecting data on all Verizon calls

Big Brother is watching you. wild mass guess

edited 5th Jun '13 8:58:14 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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KBSL Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Forming Voltron
#55819: Jun 5th 2013 at 9:59:12 PM

Does anyone else think there might be a point when a state gets, for lack of a better way of phrasing this,too non-white that all the white people just start going Republican. White men with for Romney over Obama at 65% to 35% and white women with 55% to 455. The majority of white people in blue states such as California, Illinois, and New York voted for Romney and I believe I read somewhere that even in 2008 white males with for Mc Cain over Obama in 41 out of fifty states.

For example, right now all of the New England states, Especially the upper 3, are among the whitest in the country, so I assume the majority of white people in those states voted for Obama, but what Happens when Connecticut (the least white of the six) becomes like 55% white. Do you think because of a backlash against minorities, the white people in the state could take a major Republican shift and turn it into a swing state?

edited 5th Jun '13 10:00:46 PM by KBSL

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#55820: Jun 5th 2013 at 10:03:59 PM

Uh, the youth vote went overwhelmingly to Obama, and we just had a discussion about how Republicans aren't connecting very well with youth over things like their racism. (Like, the last couple of pages.) So no, given that youths are increasingly against racism and the like I doubt that's going to happen.

The Republicans will either change or die out as a relevant party.

Edit: Seriously, recent conversations says that's mostly bullshit. For one thing, the backlash against minorities HAS BEEN OCCURRING in the form of Republican policies, and the people have fought that every step of the way.

edited 5th Jun '13 10:05:31 PM by AceofSpades

deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#55822: Jun 5th 2013 at 10:08:51 PM

Well, Verizon can't really dictate how other phone companies cooperate or don't cooperate with the government. Also it says top secret court order, so maybe there's a crime they're trying to prosecute being committed by a Verizon customer.

Not that it couldn't be applied to other companies, but if they're going after someone specific it doesn't make sense to go to AT&T if they don't use that company's phone services.

Edit: The article says it's being applied to two specific clients, actually. The problem, as always, is in the broader implications, but they're not going after everyone's info for the hell of it in this case.

edited 5th Jun '13 10:09:52 PM by AceofSpades

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#55823: Jun 5th 2013 at 10:22:57 PM

[up][up][up]

Overall youth vote, yes.

But Romney won the white youth vote.

[up][up][up][up]

As the reality of Whites becoming a minority in what was once a white dominated nation becomes more and more apparent, I expect to see a growing amount of backslash. Especially if Latinos and Blacks continue to lag behind Whites and Asians.

How big this backlash will be, I can not tell.

The House late Wednesday voted to stop the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) from entering into new contracts to buy millions of rounds of ammunition until DHS reports to Congress on the need for the ammo, and its cost.

edited 5th Jun '13 10:39:42 PM by DeviantBraeburn

Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
DrunkGirlfriend from Castle Geekhaven Since: Jan, 2011
#55824: Jun 6th 2013 at 12:25:56 AM

[up][up]My uncle is already claiming that it's a ploy by Obama to oppress conservatives.

Seriously.

edited 6th Jun '13 12:33:42 AM by DrunkGirlfriend

"I don't know how I do it. I'm like the Mr. Bean of sex." -Drunkscriblerian
TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#55825: Jun 6th 2013 at 4:15:57 AM

-_-;

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