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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#55751: Jun 4th 2013 at 12:26:32 PM

There's a thread on if college is worth the cost. Please take the college cost discussion tangent there.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Enkufka Wandering Student ಠ_ಠ from Bay of White fish Since: Dec, 2009
Wandering Student ಠ_ಠ
#55753: Jun 4th 2013 at 12:58:43 PM

We're going to vote against lower student loan interest rates, then vote FOR even HIGHER student loan interest rates! Oh, and it's Obamacare's fault because everything is Obamacare's fault!

Give me a fucking break, McConnell. You and your compatriots have repeatedly voted against anything at all that your side didn't approve, just to make Democrats look bad. And now you want to blame them for YOUR fuck-itidy?

Very big Daydream Believer. "That's not knowledge, that's a crapshoot!" -Al Murray "Welcome to QI" -Stephen Fry
Pykrete NOT THE BEES from Viridian Forest Since: Sep, 2009
NOT THE BEES
#55754: Jun 4th 2013 at 1:33:42 PM

Technically, their side approved Obamacare before Obama did...

It's like some kind of weird self-hating hipsterism.

edited 4th Jun '13 1:34:08 PM by Pykrete

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#55755: Jun 4th 2013 at 1:59:46 PM

OK, concerning Lautenberg's seat: The Washington Post described Christie's choice as a win for him but also for the Senate Democrats. Assuming that is accurate, what does that tell us?

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#55756: Jun 4th 2013 at 2:26:56 PM

Mc Connell your side just released a giant report about how you're losing young people. Why are you so gungho about pissing them off even further? 44% of young people agree that healthcare is a universal right and that the government must provide it. That's not a majority but it's certainly a big problem so using it to attack higher loan rates will only backfire since you're losing them on two issues.

[up][up]No, it's just them doing anything they can to attack Obama. Why should they care if they're hypocrites?

edited 4th Jun '13 2:27:51 PM by Kostya

Pykrete NOT THE BEES from Viridian Forest Since: Sep, 2009
NOT THE BEES
#55758: Jun 4th 2013 at 9:47:10 PM

Colorado State Senator John Morse recalled.

For those who haven't been watching, this is the guy who forcibly pushed through gun control laws while telling his fellow state senators (on TV) to ignore feedback, then staged a telephone campaign to tell constituents that the people petitioning for the recall were criminals and perverts.

So yeah, fuck that guy.

DrTentacles Cephalopod Lothario from Land of the Deep Ones Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Cephalopod Lothario
#55759: Jun 4th 2013 at 9:50:03 PM

Finally. A senator that deserves it gets recalled.

(You hear that, Wisconsin? Look at Colorado.)

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#55760: Jun 4th 2013 at 9:52:08 PM

Sexual assault in the military should not be handled by military personnel. They've proven that they not only can't but won't do it effectively, and the responsibility needs to be taken the fuck out of their power. Because seriously, fuck those shitheads. Sexual assault and rape are serious matters.

And people say sexism doesn't exist anymore.

Regarding an earlier post, I'm curious to see how Obama basically daring the Senate not to confirm his appointees is going to turn out. Aren't there several positions still empty because Senate Republicans keep refusing to do that?

[up][up]That sounds confusing. Also no, I haven't heard of it before now. Doesn't appear to have gotten news press outside of Colorado.

edited 4th Jun '13 9:52:58 PM by AceofSpades

theweirdKiddokun What a Wonderful World! from Last Place in the Race Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
What a Wonderful World!
#55761: Jun 4th 2013 at 10:05:20 PM

The real question is what is the MP (Military Police) doing to investigate these cases?

edited 4th Jun '13 10:05:33 PM by theweirdKiddokun

The Reaper Games starts anew.
AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#55762: Jun 4th 2013 at 10:10:10 PM

That's been answered, several times. The cases get dismissed when the women report them. Meaning they don't get investigated. And when female soldiers go ahead anyway with the charges, they tend to get bullied out of service so that the military doesn't have to be embarrassed.

theweirdKiddokun What a Wonderful World! from Last Place in the Race Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
What a Wonderful World!
#55763: Jun 4th 2013 at 10:16:50 PM

Right Right. Makes one wonder why they exist.

The Reaper Games starts anew.
Enkufka Wandering Student ಠ_ಠ from Bay of White fish Since: Dec, 2009
Wandering Student ಠ_ಠ
#55765: Jun 4th 2013 at 11:17:28 PM

Tentacles: For the love of god, don't fucking remind me. -_- It's an utter disgrace that Walker's still in office, but it couldn't've been avoided. Arse got millions more in campaign funds to throw about because of Citizens United while Barret had to use only funds within the state (and thus was subject to their finance laws).

So basically, fuck that guy.

Very big Daydream Believer. "That's not knowledge, that's a crapshoot!" -Al Murray "Welcome to QI" -Stephen Fry
DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#55766: Jun 4th 2013 at 11:32:42 PM

Report: Obama appointees using secret email accounts

Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
Pykrete NOT THE BEES from Viridian Forest Since: Sep, 2009
NOT THE BEES
#55767: Jun 5th 2013 at 12:15:24 AM

On the one hand I totally sympathize with wanting a secondary private email, but as far as national/organizational office and the immense amount of power being wielded is concerned we kinda do have enough trouble with lack of transparency.

If their concern is flooded inbox (legitimate given their extremely high profile position), it shouldn't be that hard to only accept mail from a list of associates, then make the relevant bits public.

edited 5th Jun '13 12:20:28 AM by Pykrete

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#55768: Jun 5th 2013 at 12:45:03 AM

Ace of Spades, were you paying attention when Barkey was explaining this stuff?

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Barkey Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#55769: Jun 5th 2013 at 12:50:31 AM

I've already tried twice to construct some rather long winded explanations again explaining this, but they got canked by this shitty government computer. Maybe I'll do it when I get home.

TheStarshipMaxima NCC - 1701 Since: Jun, 2009
NCC - 1701
#55770: Jun 5th 2013 at 8:04:08 AM

And this is why I have such a crush on the First Lady.

Michelle Obama doesn't care if you're a pissed off "lesbian looking for equality before you die." She's still not taking any of your high-school shit.

It was an honor
Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#55771: Jun 5th 2013 at 8:26:14 AM

[up]Down, boy: she's taken.

Hmmm... do you think the Obamas could pull a twofer? First black dude... first lady president? I think I could roll with her style. (I mean, seriously: who heckles the very people at least trying to drag the legislature kicking and screaming towards policies that benefit you? You deserved that craftily engineered, collective put-down, doofus.)

edited 5th Jun '13 8:36:14 AM by Euodiachloris

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#55772: Jun 5th 2013 at 8:27:48 AM

She would need to hold some political office for this. Which one?

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
TheStarshipMaxima NCC - 1701 Since: Jun, 2009
NCC - 1701
#55773: Jun 5th 2013 at 8:36:02 AM

Down, boy: she's taken.

(Scoffs) What's her man got to do with me?? ....... What's this?? (Notices a drone hovering in the distance......)

It was an honor
Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#55774: Jun 5th 2013 at 8:39:46 AM

[up][up]The Department of Energy could use somebody with a functioning synapse and the ability to tell bullshitters where to go with that degree of style. tongue

[up]Or, you know... Veterans. You just know they'd love to "practice" on stalkers. wink

edited 5th Jun '13 8:42:19 AM by Euodiachloris

TheStarshipMaxima NCC - 1701 Since: Jun, 2009
NCC - 1701
#55775: Jun 5th 2013 at 8:42:00 AM

So, you're running for the Energy Department, Euo? Wait, dont you have to be American? wink

It was an honor

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