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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#55526: Jun 2nd 2013 at 1:05:26 PM

Has Issa any proof to back up this statement?

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
GlennMagusHarvey Since: Jan, 2001
#55528: Jun 2nd 2013 at 1:29:13 PM

Rove has always been the more practical chess-player (even if an evil bastard at it) and has actually not been a huge fan of the strident ideologue types. IIRC, his organization, Crossroads GPS, has had some disagreements with some of the more ideologically-oriented conservative groups, over strategy.

edited 2nd Jun '13 1:30:33 PM by GlennMagusHarvey

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#55529: Jun 2nd 2013 at 1:33:49 PM

He's started a new group to prevent hardline Tea Partiers from winning primaries (to then lose the generals) in 2014.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#55530: Jun 2nd 2013 at 2:00:15 PM

Representative John Dingell is soon set to break record: longest serving member of Congress.

Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#55531: Jun 2nd 2013 at 4:05:12 PM

I don't think Blackburn appears to recognize that without government enforcements many women wouldn't be participating in the workforce or the economy at all.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#55532: Jun 2nd 2013 at 4:08:52 PM

I saw that article linked on Facebook by ThinkProgress and I commented to the effect that, if some women are against pay equality, then they should feel pleased to take crappy jobs that pay less than men, and let the women who want pay equality get it.

edited 2nd Jun '13 4:09:03 PM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#55534: Jun 2nd 2013 at 4:14:29 PM

I'm still perplexed that my mom votes Republican despite constantly complaining about how she's disadvantaged in pay and promotions because she's a woman. It seems to be one of her main issues but she doesn't care or doesn't acknowledge that the Republicans are largely the reason that stuff still happens.

Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#55535: Jun 2nd 2013 at 4:29:00 PM

[up]

To be fair, the republican mindset is "no matter what happens politically, Its the Liberal's fault"

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#55536: Jun 2nd 2013 at 4:38:32 PM

Oh, and there's this graph to trot out whenever you get some white Republican talking about moochers.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#55537: Jun 2nd 2013 at 4:44:38 PM

So my mom is wrong about two things. One of her other big issues is when people cheat the system and based on some of her comments she thinks most of them are hispanic or black.

edit: I don't know if this is accurate but if it is then it's also noteworthy.

edited 2nd Jun '13 4:46:48 PM by Kostya

Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#55538: Jun 2nd 2013 at 4:52:04 PM

[up] nevermiond most people dont cheat the system and most of said "moochers" are white christian families.

and yeah. its accurate. The highest incident of Food stamp, welfare, unemployment, and any other sort of "social welfare" is in highly conservative states.

edited 2nd Jun '13 4:52:45 PM by Midgetsnowman

lordnyx Since: Aug, 2009
#55540: Jun 2nd 2013 at 6:14:17 PM

I'm confused, the American population is roughly 73% identified as white yet only ~60% of foodstamps are given to white household by that graph and yet theres only 13% that identify as African American/Black and yet ~25% of households that get foodstamps are black so doesn't that reinforce the moocher position since theres fewer whites taking it in and more African Americans/blacks as compared to their overall pop?

Overall pop taken from wikipedia so may not be entirely accurate but still...

edited 2nd Jun '13 6:14:33 PM by lordnyx

DrunkGirlfriend from Castle Geekhaven Since: Jan, 2011
#55541: Jun 2nd 2013 at 6:20:20 PM

[up] I'm pretty sure that 60% isn't less than 25%.

"I don't know how I do it. I'm like the Mr. Bean of sex." -Drunkscriblerian
DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#55542: Jun 2nd 2013 at 6:21:06 PM

Report: Treasury finds IRS spent $50M on conferences in 3 years

[up]

Lordnyx said "compared to their overall pop".

The reason blacks receive a disproportionally large amount of food-stamps is mainly due to unemployment, poverty, and a lack of proper education.

edited 2nd Jun '13 6:47:43 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#55543: Jun 2nd 2013 at 6:30:25 PM

And how much do Apple and Exxon-Mobil spend on accommodations for their corporate shindigs? Context is critical - you can take any number and make it seem bad.

edited 2nd Jun '13 6:31:03 PM by Fighteer

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#55544: Jun 2nd 2013 at 6:41:28 PM

And how many of the conferences were important things like a) making sure employees are up on policy, b) solving efficiency problems, c) other things that make the IRS work better and more efficiently. With as many employees as the IRS has, of course it's going to spend a lot on conferences.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Belian In honor of my 50lb pup from 42 Since: Jan, 2001
In honor of my 50lb pup
#55545: Jun 2nd 2013 at 6:43:30 PM

Edit ninjaed...

[up][up][up][up] Read his point again. Say that the same % of people in each demographic takes food stamps. That would mean, in theory, 72% of food stamps would be going to whites and 13% would go to African Americans/Blacks. The point being made is that, assuming all the numbers are correct, whites take a lower amount (and African Americans/Blacks take a higher amount) of food stamps per population than an "even distribution" of food stamps would entail.

Now, there are all sorts of other aspects that should come into play in the discussion, but using just those two pieces of info you can come up with these two conclusions: whites use a greater % of the food stamps while African Americans/Blacks are more likely to use food stamps.

[up] Especially these last couple years. The 2011 tax year (filed during 2012) was the fist year they used a new electronic processing system (and it caused multiple delays that year). Getting that up and running over the past three years must have been a nightmare. Add on what they must have gone through with figuring out possibilities/quick patches before the fiscal cliff deal passed... *shiver*

edited 2nd Jun '13 6:49:01 PM by Belian

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Barkey Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#55546: Jun 2nd 2013 at 6:50:19 PM

Personally I think big expensive conferences like that are bullshit. It's much more cost effective to have trainers go to different offices to do 1 on 1 or group training rather than renting out an expensive conference room, having catering, et cetera.

What other companies spend doesn't matter, because those companies aren't spending tax dollars on those shindigs.

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#55547: Jun 2nd 2013 at 6:54:32 PM

Hey everyone, The College Republican National Committee's report on why it lost the youth vote is out.

Here are some highlights:

Perception of the party’s economic stance: “We’ve become the party that will pat you on your back when you make it, but won’t offer you a hand to help you get there.”

Hispanics: “Latino voters … tend to think the GOP couldn’t care less about them.”

Words that up-for-grabs voters associate with the GOP: “The responses were brutal: closed-minded, racist, rigid, old-fashioned.”

[up] @Barkey has a point that comparing the IRS to corporations is a flawed. We should, however, compare them to other government agencies.

edited 2nd Jun '13 7:01:46 PM by DeviantBraeburn

Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#55548: Jun 2nd 2013 at 7:23:36 PM

[up]Damn, those are actually accurate. I doubt it will change much because insane people still drive the party but at least someone gets it.

GlennMagusHarvey Since: Jan, 2001
#55549: Jun 2nd 2013 at 7:39:11 PM

Representative Blackburn: Eric Holder has lost the confidence of some American people

Fixed that for you, Rep. Blackburn.

AnSTH Lawful Evil Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#55550: Jun 2nd 2013 at 7:40:41 PM

"If rampant xenophobia and white supremacist undertones aren't working, obviously we're not using enough!" -RNC Spokesperson

But that's a story for another time.

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