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AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#55451: May 31st 2013 at 5:31:37 PM

[up]I just... what. What? He's on the same side as you, you crazy woman. Is your party trying to cannibalize itself now?

@Drunk: I don't know why you're saying that at me when we pretty much agree on that score? I don't recall us ever having voiced a good opinion of libertarianism.

DrunkGirlfriend from Castle Geekhaven Since: Jan, 2011
#55452: May 31st 2013 at 5:34:06 PM

@Ace: Oh, I didn't mean it like that. [lol]

I was just saying that your link was a good example of why I don't like libertarians.

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AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#55453: May 31st 2013 at 5:38:49 PM

Well, in this case I don't know if we can blame it entirely on libertarianism. It's at least a little bit ignorance of how little power local governments have right now. (One mayor or whatever he was got quoted as saying he'd like to have the locals decide zoning laws rather than be flat out told they can't decide for themselves.) And ignorance of the fact that this is occurring, because I assumed that people were required everywhere to have fire safety laws. I was, however, ignorant of the connection between that and zoning laws.

It's a clusterfuck tied up in big business, and it really always has been from the start. Texas likes to tout its business regiment for a reason; chances are good at succeeding here. There is, however, a tremendous cost. *come on staaate, flip blue already* *get us some safety laws that are enforced*

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
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#55455: May 31st 2013 at 5:59:12 PM

Really???!?

Far-right conservative group The Eagle Forum held the call, which featured Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL)’s communications director Stephen Miller and the Heritage Foundation’s Robert Rector. The suggestion that Collins should be shot came when the call moderator turned the discussion over to callers.

An individual identified as “Bob from Maine” said, “I’m from Maine and our tea party will be meeting up next week. What is the best way that we can get our senator to listen to us?”

“Shoot her,” said another caller, who did not identify himself.

Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.
DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#55456: May 31st 2013 at 6:06:29 PM

[up] I'm not sure that would change her mind. tongue

IRS fails to meet Senate Finance's deadline for documents on targeting

edited 1st Jun '13 12:07:58 AM by DeviantBraeburn

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nightwyrm_zero Since: Apr, 2010
#55457: May 31st 2013 at 6:10:30 PM

What is it with Texas and crazy people.

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#55458: May 31st 2013 at 6:48:03 PM

Well, aside of it being a Republican and Libertarian stronghold? Possibly a pre-emptive backlash against the growing Hispanic population?

Really though I don't think they're all that crazier than the rest of the Republican party. It's just our proportionally higher representation means we have more reps to say and do stupid things on a national and state level. Also the system is rigged so that Rick Perry keeps getting elected. There's been some rumbling that the presidential campaign and other things have ruined his chances in the next election, but I'm just going to wait and hope.

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#55459: May 31st 2013 at 7:50:45 PM

Everybody I know in Texas was trying to get Perry elected president so they could get him the hell out of their state. How exactly has he rigged the elections? I'm not doubting you, I'm honestly wondering.

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#55460: May 31st 2013 at 8:06:00 PM

[up] Why would them trying to vote him up to so high a position speak against their inability to un-elect him?

To a certain degree, it would probably speak for it.

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AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#55461: May 31st 2013 at 11:49:29 PM

I mean that previously the system was rigged so he pretty much couldn't lose. Even against another Republican. And since he's friendly towards businesses (so much so that at one point he and his administration handed Big Oil money that had been earmarked for the education funds) there ARE people that would want to vote him up, because he serves their interests.

tricksterson Never Trust from Behind you with an icepick Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
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#55462: Jun 1st 2013 at 5:17:07 AM

@ Deviant Braeburn: Are you sure that's not a Poe?

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DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
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#55464: Jun 1st 2013 at 1:40:20 PM

A "bigger, more inclusive Republican Party" would go a long way to solving many of this nation's issues, I think. But I'm not sure Sen. Paul and I would agree on what constitutes "more inclusive." Minority members have to be equal to the wealthy white men Senator.

But that's a story for another time.
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#55465: Jun 1st 2013 at 2:17:57 PM

Rand Paul? He's talking about Libertarians, I think, not moderates.

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terlwyth Since: Oct, 2010
#55466: Jun 1st 2013 at 3:39:33 PM

Odd as it may seem,I don't actually mind Romney still having a presence. As long as he isn't being like 2012,I'm fine with it. And since whatever he does won't involve nearly so much base-pandering I suspect he'll take up more moderate positions.

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#55467: Jun 1st 2013 at 3:51:36 PM

He isn't running for office, though...

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terlwyth Since: Oct, 2010
#55468: Jun 1st 2013 at 4:07:22 PM

True,...but by the sound of it,people don't seem to think he's gonna be a Post '88 Dukakis/Post '08 Dubya either.

tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
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#55469: Jun 1st 2013 at 6:59:06 PM

Former wrestler turned Governor of Minnesota Jesse Ventura is hinting at a run for the presidency as an independent.

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#55470: Jun 1st 2013 at 7:00:34 PM

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Xopher001 Since: Jul, 2012
#55471: Jun 1st 2013 at 7:02:15 PM

I wouldn't judge Ace Ventura too soon

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#55472: Jun 1st 2013 at 7:07:31 PM

Ace Ventura is Jim Carrey character. Jesse Ventura is a former wrestler. He's also the host of show about conspiracy theories, most of which he appears to believe on the flimsiest of evidence. (Like this one show where he had a lady who believed the World Health Organization was trying to engineer a disease to kill off most of the world's population, and that they were out to kill her over the issue.)

In short, though the man is clearly a liberal minded fellow, he's fucking ridiculous and a nutcase. The only thing that makes him better than the right is that he's a decent enough fellow not to issue death threats to people he disagrees with. Which actually makes him a lot better really, but he's not qualified for political office these days. Certainly not the presidency.

edited 1st Jun '13 7:07:52 PM by AceofSpades

Xopher001 Since: Jul, 2012
#55473: Jun 1st 2013 at 7:08:24 PM

O, right I forgot that. I guess it's easy to get the two confused

tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
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#55474: Jun 1st 2013 at 7:20:43 PM

He's even got a trope page: Jesse Ventura.

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