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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
@thatguythere 47: Quite possible. I went with that term because I feel for what Obama tries to do with his compromising and people call him a centrist. Basically, I went with the "tries to find/support the middle ground" definition. Though you could add "because it is what might actually be done" to that—which would make me quite pragmatic.
<shrug> there is a reason I don't generally label (or put much stock in labeling) "types of thought": I can never keep them strait and each person will have a different definition anyway.
edited 29th May '13 1:37:12 PM by Belian
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Left wing? Maybe I'm not remembering but I thought most of the domestic terrorists that weren't Muslim were more in line with the right.
In the past left wing would probably be an accurate view of them but not anymore from what I can tell.
If that's directed at me then I don't know what you mean.
edited 29th May '13 1:46:13 PM by Kostya
When I think "US domestic terrorist", I think "Hewie Freeman" and the lyrics of Rage Against The Machine.
Aren't violent rightwingers more likely to attempt to join the military or the police, and work directly for The Man, with society's blessing?
edited 29th May '13 1:58:32 PM by TheHandle
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.@Know-wage: you mean the Animal Liberation Front?
@this link
: This is why we should have listened to Paul Van Riper
ten years ago
.
I would hypothetically be more afraid of a Right Wing terror cell, too; I just don't think there are any known, active, threatening ones in the US.
EDIT: Speaking of the IRS, anyone remember that guy who flew a plane into their HQ a while ago? That would be a right wing terrorist.
edited 29th May '13 2:14:01 PM by Know-age
One thing to keep in mind is that a very high proportion of Kokesh and his followers are separated military members.
One of my friends who is former Army infantry and saw very heavy action in Iraq is a very radical Libertarian, and a massive supporter of Kokesh, so I've discussed this with him quite a lot. Kokesh could have accomplished something if he had kept his march to DC as the plan. Marching on all 50 state capitols with an ultimatum is absolutely absurd, and isn't going to end in a way that could be considered productive. Assuming that the protestors had did the march in DC as a demonstration with no real demands and didn't show any aggressive behavior, it could have ran its course peacefully, but now Kokesh is advocating outright insurrection, so he's pretty much bitten off more than he can chew. He's out of the picture now.
But the point I wanted to drive home is that yeah, people in Kokesh's frame of mind definitely can be dangerous. The government needs to be careful with how they deal with them, because it could very well blow up in their faces if they are too heavy handed in how they deal with this problem. They have a very high proportion of military veterans with combat experience and training, most of the people in Kokesh's group, as combatants, heavily outclass police officers in martial ability. Sure, that doesn't mean he has a snowballs chance in hell of launching a revolution, but it does mean they can cause a lot of damage.
@The Link Regarding The Army Intelligence Moneypit:
Here's a good link explaining all the drama between DCGS-A and Palantir
written by a veteran Intelligence Analyst who has used both.

If it actually came to blows, the Militia would still cause a lot of casualties. And that is the scary part.
Very big Daydream Believer. "That's not knowledge, that's a crapshoot!" -Al Murray "Welcome to QI" -Stephen Fry