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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
And, not just with people who are living a semi-dodgy lifestyle. <_< Think of those who know their family has a history of miscarriages... They actually need the help, but if your biology (like, say... you're A- with a few other germ-line issues) is against you and you don't manage to carry the foetus to term... What then?
@ Kostya
Indeed, the ultimate logical conclusion is that a woman could face the Electric Chair for something they had no concious control over. Especially in the case of multiple miscarriages.
You face the Electric Chair.
edited 25th May '13 7:48:59 AM by Greenmantle
Keep Rolling On![]()
Even if the person used drugs I don't think they should be charged. It's one thing if they can prove they did it just to kill the baby but what if they drink heavily before they even realize they're pregnant?
I doubt they'd get the chair. Heck, most of them probably wouldn't even be convicted. That still doesn't mean putting them through such a terrible ordeal after losing their baby isn't a bad thing.
edit: At least Obamacare is getting some good news.
edited 25th May '13 7:55:17 AM by Kostya
Lemme guess, men were the one who sponsored and wrote that legislation right?
Stephen Colbert
at UVA's class of 2013 grad
Citigroup literally writing House committee legislation on bank regulations
Jason Jones talks with radio personality and "The Ultimate Obama Survival Guide" author Wayne Allyn Root about the indignity of being profiled.
Highlights.
And from the Onion: Study Finds College Leaves Majority of Graduates Unprepared to Carry Entire American Economic Recovery
Can we, I don't know, try impregnating the guys who come up with this junk?
Because I'm pretty sure that the majority of people involved in making these laws are not going to be affected by them.
edited 25th May '13 9:13:20 AM by Ramidel
...Honestly, the only tragedy in miscarriages is that the people who get the miscarriage often suffer mental anguish from it, in my opinion. The child is almost always, if not always, to my knowledge, not capable of suffering at the time of the miscarriage so the death of the fetus is not suffering and is not a bad thing in of itself (though it's not necessarily a good thing).
Taking drugs is illegal, and if someone dies as the result of an illegal act you committed, then you can be charged with murder or manslaughter. So if you consider a fetus to be a human being, then prosecuting a woman who took drugs while pregnant, resulting in a miscarriage, makes sense.
Let me ask: if you punch a pregnant woman in the stomach and she miscarries, can you be charged with murder? If yes, than this court's actions are logically consistent. If not, then it does come across as excessive woman-targeting.
if you punch a pregnant woman in the stomach and she miscarries, can you be charged with murder?
That is what the Unborn Victims of Violence Act is about (I refuse to use that awful title Laci and Conner's Law), yes?
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman![]()
But you would have to prove that the drugs are what caused the miscarriage. Even then I'm unsure if that should be illegal unless the fetus is viable.
I wouldn't say punching a woman to induce a miscarriage is murder but it is illegal because it's terminating her pregnancy without her consent.
edited 25th May '13 11:15:40 AM by Kostya
We would, however, be validating Junior. Are you willing to take that risk?
Louie Gohmert (R): Woman should carry brain dead fetus to term. Just in case.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/24/louie-gohmert-abortion-ban_n_3332823.html
Of course, he can't be completely wrong. The brain dead baby COULD in reality prove to have a teensy weensy bit of mental capacity, as proven by Louie himself making it to congress.
Right, she should have to look at the vegetative child in front of her and say "Kill it." That's so much easier and less traumatic than getting an abortion.
edit: The scandals apparently aren't doing much to Obama.
edited 25th May '13 12:43:40 PM by Kostya
It will take extreme force of will to keep me from punching a person in the face if they ever use that argument on me. Not only are you putting them through the emotional and financial burden of birthing a child you are forcing them to then care for a child that they did not want that will probably bankrupt them. They will do this for no benefit and it will no doubt cause them to resent the child because it is bankrupting them. Screw that.
Representative Chaffetz (R-UT): Administration covering up on Benghazi terror attack
Senator Sessions: Senate immigration bill will 'hammer working Americans'
NASA embarks on mission to lasso asteroid
Arizona Governor Jan Brewer Vetoing All Bills Until Medicaid Expansion Passes
edited 25th May '13 1:29:26 PM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016So Brewer is holding the legislature hostage until they give in on that bit of Obamacare?
Sessions is just fearmongering, I think. Pretty typical for the more loud immigration opponents, as I know.
Some proof for Chaffetz's accusations would be nice.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
