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TheStarshipMaxima NCC - 1701 Since: Jun, 2009
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#52176: Apr 3rd 2013 at 12:07:05 PM

Mods tend to muzzle discussions on abortion, so I'll just say this; I have a hard time disagreeing with Priebus.

I'm certain neither Obama nor anyone in his party aims for that, but it does kinda boil down to that in the end, no matter how unpalatable it is to hear.

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Ultrayellow Unchanging Avatar. Since: Dec, 2010
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#52177: Apr 3rd 2013 at 12:09:21 PM

We're not going anywhere near abortion, guys. Move on.

"Swag" needs to go die in a hole.

Except for 4/1/2011. That day lingers in my memory like...metaphor here...I should go.
DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#52178: Apr 3rd 2013 at 12:11:22 PM

Agreed that we'd better stay away from the Abortion issue.

Republicans next week will push legislation through the House that would freeze the work of the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB).

edited 3rd Apr '13 12:12:11 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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TheStarshipMaxima NCC - 1701 Since: Jun, 2009
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#52179: Apr 3rd 2013 at 12:16:26 PM

Hey! I like "swag".

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#52180: Apr 3rd 2013 at 12:18:48 PM

See, this whole establishing state religion thing is why the Republicans keep getting called the American Taliban. It's not because they're terrorists. It's because they want to put the same restrictions on the American population that the Taliban does on the Islamic world. The laws about religion and treatment of women that they propose are the same. The biggest difference is the religion they support.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Enkufka Wandering Student ಠ_ಠ from Bay of White fish Since: Dec, 2009
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#52181: Apr 3rd 2013 at 12:19:21 PM

I vehemently disagree with Preibus's rhetoric as it keeps an actually civil discussion about abortion from coming about. That's all I will say.

And I believe that Swag has a place in society as a concept regarding quantifying coolness however the current execution is the dumbest pile of pigshit ever. "who needs condoms when you've got SWAG" indeed.

Very big Daydream Believer. "That's not knowledge, that's a crapshoot!" -Al Murray "Welcome to QI" -Stephen Fry
DrTentacles Cephalopod Lothario from Land of the Deep Ones Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#52182: Apr 3rd 2013 at 12:21:31 PM

Is there a secret "except Christianity" in the separation of church and state clause that I failed to notice?

I respect their right to their beliefs.

However, if they have no right to institutionalize them. Otherwise, pant-free-friday is becoming my state's new holiday.

Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#52183: Apr 3rd 2013 at 12:22:03 PM

And the other difference is that Biblical Christianity isn't actually that restrictive. It is in some ways, but there's nothing that says women can't work, and Christianity started out as a religion repressed by the Romans. It wasn't a state religion of anywhere until after the Bible was completed. They pull a lot of these suggestions out of nowhere, or out of the Old Testament laws that are made pretty clear that Christians can ignore them. Like the kosher laws.

I have no idea what kind of Christianity these people are following is.

edited 3rd Apr '13 12:22:54 PM by Zendervai

TheStarshipMaxima NCC - 1701 Since: Jun, 2009
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#52184: Apr 3rd 2013 at 12:43:48 PM

I have no idea what kind of Christianity these people are following is.

As someone who actually follows Christianity, I wonder the same damn thing.

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Wildcard Since: Jun, 2012
#52185: Apr 3rd 2013 at 12:48:11 PM

Otherwise, pant-free-friday is becoming my state's new holiday.

Well if we agree that states can have that kinda power, can I come over there?[lol]

edited 3rd Apr '13 12:48:37 PM by Wildcard

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#52186: Apr 3rd 2013 at 12:50:58 PM

Obama: ‘No conflict’ between gun control and gun rights

Labor, religious leaders join forces to defend family visas in immigration deal

edited 3rd Apr '13 1:19:36 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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Wildcard Since: Jun, 2012
#52187: Apr 3rd 2013 at 12:59:38 PM

I don't agree with some of the stuff the president does but I agree with this idea. I'm fine with regulations for guns and I'm also fine with others owning guns as long as they aren't the kind of things like rocket launchers, grenade launchers, or sniper rifles that are especially dangerous even in capable, sane hands. At the very least be more restrictive on buying those things than buying pistols, or hunting rifles.

Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
Gunpla is amazing!
#52188: Apr 3rd 2013 at 1:09:40 PM

So, seems the Sequester is working in favor of the Repubs.

And too bad we wont even get universal background checks because our congress is the most inept thing in history.

edited 3rd Apr '13 1:15:40 PM by Thorn14

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#52190: Apr 3rd 2013 at 1:22:45 PM

[up]Whut?! OK... that's her career down the drain. I hope. <_<

terlwyth Since: Oct, 2010
#52191: Apr 3rd 2013 at 1:24:53 PM

Adding fuel to the fire much?

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#52192: Apr 3rd 2013 at 1:28:32 PM

Representative Maloney (D-NY) says she received death threats after introducing gun control legislation

Well at least we're keeping things civil. tongue

edited 3rd Apr '13 1:33:47 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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terlwyth Since: Oct, 2010
#52193: Apr 3rd 2013 at 1:39:08 PM

About 100 or 200 pages ago,you posted an article about how things are more partisan and it cites the 1976 election vs this one and how many close states there were.

But it's faulty,considering since 1948 the scale between has gone back and forth. It's not receding,re-elections just often have fewer close states.

1952 had 7 close states,1956 had just 3 (even less than the last) the first was an open election. The second was Eisenhower's re-election

1960 had 20,1964 had 3 again (true it was Johnson since Kennedy got assassinated,but still)

1968 had 13 close states,1972 didn't have any under 5% the latter which was Nixon's re-election

What's happened after 1976 with the exception of 1984 is that if anything,...there have been too many close states,even when re-elections should drop drastically. Often in an incumbent landslide.

If anything 2012 is just a return the normal "incumbent slaughters challenger" thing.

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#52194: Apr 3rd 2013 at 1:44:56 PM

Thorn, could you explain that statement?

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#52195: Apr 3rd 2013 at 1:45:04 PM

[up][up]

Are you talking to me?

Because I don't recall posting anything like that.

Then again my memory is horrible.

President Obama will return 5 percent of his salary, retroactive to March 1, in a move intended to symbolize solidarity with federal workers being furloughed as part of the sequester, a White House official said Wednesday.

edited 3rd Apr '13 1:46:45 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
Gunpla is amazing!
#52196: Apr 3rd 2013 at 1:46:59 PM

[up][up]

Just Republicans are able to make Obama look bad thanks to the Sequester.

TheStarshipMaxima NCC - 1701 Since: Jun, 2009
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#52197: Apr 3rd 2013 at 1:47:07 PM

[up][up]I'm reminded that though I find his politics sorely lacking, I find the man himself greatly inspiring.

edited 3rd Apr '13 1:47:22 PM by TheStarshipMaxima

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Morgikit Mikon :3 from War Drobe, Spare Oom Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Mikon :3
#52198: Apr 3rd 2013 at 1:49:06 PM

What is a senior citizen doing in a "firefight" anyway?

TheStarshipMaxima NCC - 1701 Since: Jun, 2009
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#52199: Apr 3rd 2013 at 1:55:35 PM

If the senior citizen is Bruce Willis, it's practically a trope.

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