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Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#52051: Apr 1st 2013 at 4:16:12 PM

[up]

Oooor, translated out of crazed fundie speak. Simple people have more miracles because they cant explain shit any other way because they dont have the education we do.

Pykrete NOT THE BEES from Viridian Forest Since: Sep, 2009
NOT THE BEES
#52052: Apr 1st 2013 at 4:46:54 PM

One could actually go one step further, and say moving something from the directory it was installed to a different one constitutes copyright infringement(since you're "making a copy" to do so)...

Not quite that far. When you move something between directories in the same drive, the file still occupies the same physical space on the drive and hasn't changed — all you've done is put a new path to it. Basically the same stuff that happens with shortcuts on your desktop.

When you defrag your drive though, it does change the physical location of the file, which necessarily creates a copy in the process (and depending on whether it formats vacant data, might not even overwrite or delete the old one).

Although now that I think about it, any judge who's clueless enough about the workings of a computer to not know that the latter is technically an offense would likely think the former is.

edited 1st Apr '13 5:04:12 PM by Pykrete

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#52053: Apr 1st 2013 at 4:49:26 PM

Criminal or civil charges require a plaintiff. It is absurd to think that a company would prosecute you for moving or copying a file on your hard drive.

This judge's verdict is likely to be overturned, or at least one hopes.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Pykrete NOT THE BEES from Viridian Forest Since: Sep, 2009
NOT THE BEES
#52054: Apr 1st 2013 at 4:51:00 PM

It's absurd that they'd bother, but they would have the legal power to do so, just like if you made a copy for personal use that didn't fall into the exact terms of their licensing agreement (which they have prosecuted over before).

edited 1st Apr '13 4:51:46 PM by Pykrete

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#52055: Apr 1st 2013 at 5:18:28 PM

Ugggh, It looks like Perry learned nothing from last year's wildfires fiasco. YOU TAKE THE DAMN MONEY BECAUSE FUCK YES WE ARE GOING TO NEED IT. And Goddamn, if someone else is willing to foot the bill, it's financially stupid of you to turn it down. Also, I think Cruz is going to be a long term thorn in our side the same way Perry has been.

I'm wondering where the idea that Perry isn't going to run for governor again is coming from, though. There's clearly nothing to stop him from retaining the power he has now, even if he wants to go for the presidency again. (And I still think those chances have been shot to hell by his incident.)

Also, Tennessee is looking to kick kids in the ribs while they're down.

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/04/01/1802811/tennessee-advances-legislation-that-would-tie-welfare-to-childrens-grades/

And this:

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/03/31/1800201/law-enforcement-officials-gunned-down-in-possible-white-supremacist-plot/

edited 1st Apr '13 5:19:48 PM by AceofSpades

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#52056: Apr 1st 2013 at 5:21:59 PM

[up]What is his logic for refusing aid?

Also a comment on that child thing is right. Why not increase benefits if children do well instead of slashing them if they do bad?

edited 1st Apr '13 5:22:05 PM by Kostya

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#52057: Apr 1st 2013 at 5:26:13 PM

This is putting the burden of whether or not the family eats on the child. Which is just wrong on every level. It doesn't even matter if you increase benefits if the kids do well, because doing average MEANS YOUR FAMILY GETS LESS FINANCIAL SUPPORT AND IT IS YOUR FAULT. And you're just a child. There is no way to implement something like that and not have it mess up the child in the future.

Just fucking give the family financial security and the child will do better.

Perry's logic is that taxes = bad evil things, and that somehow insuring everybody is onerous. Also, big, bad federal control. Which he's giving the federal government by refusing to do this at the state level.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#52058: Apr 1st 2013 at 5:28:05 PM

True. Honestly if this passes I can see the number of cases of child abuse spiking dramatically.

What is he refusing to take money for?

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#52059: Apr 1st 2013 at 5:35:37 PM

HEALTHCARE, Kostya. Didn't you see the article links on the previous page? That's what I'm talking about. And it's been one of his consistent sticking points, so about half the last hundred conversations about him have involved that.

There's a link in it to another article:

http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/2013/04/perry-cornyn-cruz-assail-medicaid-expansion-as-unwise.html/

He is apparently willing to take the money as a block grant, though, which means he'd have no restrictions or rules on what he would have to spend that money on.

edited 1st Apr '13 5:37:17 PM by AceofSpades

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#52060: Apr 1st 2013 at 5:43:14 PM

[up]No, I didn't notice the links. I assumed that was what you meant but you mentioned something about wildfires which confused me. I thought you were saying he refused to take disaster aid or something.

Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#52061: Apr 1st 2013 at 5:54:32 PM

It just baffles me that these politicians apparently don't know the meaning of subtlety, and still no one notices.

And that thing with kids, it just sounds awful. Schools with a lot of welfare kids don't tend to have high averages, because they have less funding because there are lower averages and so on. This will merely spill a big problem into even more areas with much worse possible repercussions.

edited 1st Apr '13 5:55:42 PM by Zendervai

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#52062: Apr 1st 2013 at 5:59:09 PM

edited 1st Apr '13 5:59:40 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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DrTentacles Cephalopod Lothario from Land of the Deep Ones Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Cephalopod Lothario
#52063: Apr 1st 2013 at 6:06:57 PM

On a wide variety of issues — gay marriage, tax policy, implementing Obamacare, the death penalty — states are moving in polar opposite directions from one another.

This is kinda disturbing. I like the idea of liberal states getting more liberal (to a degree), but even so, it worries me. Not just because other states are moving in the exact opposite direction. What worries me is it means people are going to get more and more stuck in their Echo Chambers, and not have to confront opposing viewpoints, see people who believe differently than they do as people, face to face, interact with them.

I feel like it's going to lead to increased "othering" which is...not good for this nation. Something's going to give.

edited 1st Apr '13 6:13:14 PM by DrTentacles

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#52064: Apr 1st 2013 at 6:14:44 PM

He refused disaster aid LAST YEAR (or the year before, the timeline is getting fuzzy), and then we had a fucking disaster. He is not applying the lesson he should have learned to accepting federal money for healthcare. IE: that it can actually be helpful for Texans that the federal government wants to give us money to use for things.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#52065: Apr 1st 2013 at 6:32:10 PM

Okay now I understand the issue. Sorry it took so long.

Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#52066: Apr 1st 2013 at 7:28:23 PM

@Dr Tentacles: Definitely a bad thing. I mean, it's not just the Vocal Minority of Texans who want to secede from the union. The majority of those advocating for Texan secession, to the best of my knowledge, are liberals who want to kick Texas out.

And the last thing America needs is to Pakistanize.

Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#52067: Apr 1st 2013 at 7:38:35 PM

I don't understand these movements towards seceding. Canada has it with Quebec and the glaring problem with these movements is that the provinces or states in question flat out can't support themselves without government assistance. Commodities would have to be sourced through the rest of the country, and the now-independent nation decides to let companies do whatever they want, watch everyone who can move away.

And every country needs multiple viewpoints, not just two. There are more than two types of people, after all.

edited 1st Apr '13 7:39:14 PM by Zendervai

Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#52068: Apr 1st 2013 at 7:40:36 PM

@Zendervai: It's nearly always one or both of two things:

1: Ideology trumping pragmatism. 2: The secessionists are using the secession issue to build or maintain their power base (Bloc Quebecois, near as I can tell, was an example of this).

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#52069: Apr 1st 2013 at 8:45:05 PM

The liberals who want to kick Texas out of the US are fucking assholes who are doing nothing to help solve our issues and are in many cases being deliberately ignorant. The conservatives within the state that want to secede are pretty much doing the same thing.

Seriously, what with the whole thing with ignoring the Keystone Pipeline stuff going on in this state, I'm wondering if Texas is basically starting to be considered a lost cause or a sort of sacrifice to the conservatives because people think other places are worthier of "saving".

tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#52070: Apr 1st 2013 at 9:08:57 PM

The only major problem with Texas is that it's difficult to changes conservatives minds about politics, and Texas has a very large rural population who has that conservative mindset.

And when the government is owned by conservatives, it's very easy to ignore things like this.

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#52071: Apr 1st 2013 at 9:12:05 PM

Isn't Texas nearly purple these days? Yeah, it still has the gerrymandered Republican government problem (I swear, we need to just draw a grid on the map and call every square a district...), but it's been leaning a lot more liberal on more issues than you'd think. It's a big state, and while it does have some disturbing Deep South mentalities dotted here and there, that's not the majority.

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tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#52072: Apr 1st 2013 at 9:14:27 PM

Nearly, but not quite. Even with nearly all of the major urban counties voting for Obama (except for Ft. Worth), Texas still went to Romney.

Texas has a large number of rural cities, which don't really have that urban mindset.

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#52074: Apr 1st 2013 at 10:43:04 PM

...Installing fear in them will make them less likely to carry guns? I think you have this backwards.

rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#52075: Apr 1st 2013 at 11:14:22 PM

Why does this not surprise me? And get rid of the "A" in your first link.

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