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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
I meant that you should put it in one of the European politics threads, not this one. Silly.
edited 28th Mar '13 8:31:30 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
should have known...
Here is the problem: Any penalties would have to be voted on by the people they would effect.
There IS a popular/public vote option in the USA, but it has only been used once in history and can be effectively ignored. Am I safe in assuming that there is a simular situation arround the EU Parliament?
edited 28th Mar '13 8:27:24 AM by Belian
Yu hav nat sein bod speeling unntil know. (cacke four undersandig tis)the cake is a lie!The first couple times I read that, I Read That As "thumping babies".
edited 28th Mar '13 10:58:37 AM by Balmung
Maybe in the House, but not in the Senate. To many retiring incumbents and vunerabele Red & Purple States.
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edited 28th Mar '13 12:42:11 PM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016If the retiring incumbent endorses the candidate of their party in the next election, won't that count for something?
Also, can the incumbent have a strong candidate as an understudy in some position that will give them experience and help associate that future candidate with the incumbent?
Quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur.Depends on the incumbent's in-state approval rating, I would imagine.
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Depends on how the incumbent is viewed at the time of their retirement. George W Bush's endorsement would probably have been the deathknell for any Republican's Presidential ambitions in 2008, for instance, because he was loathed on the left and increasingly viewed as a RINO on the right.
Nothing to stop them, no. But it is usually better to keep favored candidates in the Senate, the House, or a Governorship, as then you can point to a record of action, but, crucially, be seen to be different from a potentially unpopular retiring administration.
EDIT: Oh, you mean in state politics. Same answers, but obviously different terminology.
edited 28th Mar '13 12:50:34 PM by Achaemenid
Schild und Schwert der ParteiTo some degree, but there is a certain advantage that only elected incumbents have.
edited 29th Mar '13 5:56:43 PM by DeviantBraeburn
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edited 28th Mar '13 6:16:42 PM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016I really hate Rick Scott.
Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.I really hate most republican governors. Hypocritical and illustrative of why the conservative policy is not at all grounded in reality.
Same with Scott Walker. He came in promising a quarter million jobs, and then when Wisconsin became one of the biggest places that people were fleeing, removed that promise from his campaign site. He claimed that he was busting public unions in order to balance the budget but at the same time gave millions in tax breaks for corporations.
Very big Daydream Believer. "That's not knowledge, that's a crapshoot!" -Al Murray "Welcome to QI" -Stephen FryMy friend says that voting commission isn't going to do anything other than give off the appearance of something being done. But I don't think that article gives us enough information on what this voting commission is supposed to do. Are they reviewing all the state ID laws that Republicans have tried to pass? Are they going to investigate places where the voting lines were ridiculously long? Research methods to make voting take less time? What?
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EDIT: I was cruising through FreeRepublic.com and found THIS!
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Someone show @Koysta
edited 29th Mar '13 12:55:35 AM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
It'd be entertaining...as long as you watch it from a WW3-proofed bunker.
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edited 29th Mar '13 10:39:09 AM by DeviantBraeburn
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A mod says to incorporate this here instead of as a new topic, so:
The original article
I'm making this point from is about a new censorship law, proposed in the EU Parliament. The point I want to raise is not about censorship (of porn or anything else), but rather the behavior of various politicians during the debate. To wit:
It is also impossible for people to hold their politicians accountable on this issue, as the European Parliament did not use a "roll call vote," meaning there is no record of how individuals voted. The idea that a vote can be deliberately constructed in a way that prevents office-holder accountability is astounding.