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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
The suicide thing actually makes sense, the actual mood swings that result in a person going from "wants to kill himself" to "Actively tries to kill himself" can be quite short in time. So if you provide enough inconvenience then people kill themselves less. Now obviously that still leaves us with the big problem of there being a bunch of people who are much to close to trying to kill themselves then is safe, but it sure beats them being dead.
To cite a personal example. During this year I've had some times when I've been down enough to think about killing myself (never enough to actually try and it's behind me now), but they've always been over relatively quickly. Now my flat is reasonably suicide proof, no bath to drown myself in, nothing to get a rope over so as to hang myself, windows don't open enough to be jumped out of, no guns, no drugs that could be used to overdoes. Also I know from experience with friends who've tried to kill themselves that wrist cutting is horribly inefficient, and I have moral hangups about the idea of throwing myself in front of a vehicle. So the way I would do it if I chose to would be to go jump in the river, but that's half an hour by tube away. So by the time I actually got there the mood drop that made me decide to do it would likely have faded. Meaning I'd end up turning around and heading home. I know this because when I've had particularly bad days when I've been in central and considered throwing myself in front of the tube (but deciding against it because things weren't actually that bad), but I've already felt better by the time I get back to mine. A little delay between the decision and being able to carry it out does strike me as able to work wonders.
Though we certainly shouldn't really on it. Because it's still fracking dangerous to have a bunch of people running around who would kill themselves if only it was a bit easier.
edited 27th Mar '13 3:05:03 PM by Silasw
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranAshley Judd won't run for Senate in Kentucky
Somehow the Dems Senate prospects in 2014 actually managed to get worse.
A top Nevada lawmaker introduced a bill Monday to legalize betting on federal elections.
Senator McCain (R-AZ): Woman crossed border illegally in front of senators
Obama vows 'positive agenda' with Latin America in second term
Supreme Court Rejects Antitrust Suit Against Comcast
Huckabee: 'Evangelicals will take a walk' if GOP supports gay marriage
Huck might be right. The GOP is in quite a sticky situation.
edited 27th Mar '13 7:53:57 PM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016I think Huck is full of shit. There's no way we'll be lucky enough for the evangelical right to split the vote in 2014 or 2016
Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.Arkansas Senate overrides governor’s veto of voter ID bill; state House still yet to vote
David Petraeus Apologizes For Conduct, Affair
Guam Governor Eddie Baza Calvo Says North Korea Attack Unlikely
Utah Governor Gary Herbert signs bill to keep Attorney General from investigating himself
Oklahoma state lawmakers vote to allow horse slaughter
edited 27th Mar '13 9:23:26 PM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016Good. They brought it on themselves and they deserve the mess its gonna get them into. The GOP gets into an internal spat about gays getting married? Pardon me while I get another beer and watch gleefully.
If I were to write some of the strange things that come under my eyes they would not be believed. ~Cora M. Strayer~Well it's not just the Evangelicals getting pissed with Establishment Republicans who know when a ship is sinking: They're also pissing off the Tea Party for suggesting their sub-faction's candidates are too extreme. I dunno, it feels like something's going to happen. Merely that the fuse hasn't been lit or hasn't reached the point to set off the explosion.
Which by no means should Liberals wax around lazily and be smug about it, but two major failures to keep Obama out of the presidency has basically created a sizable crack in the Republican party. And as it stands, The Centre cannot hold.
Though on a side-note with that: How quickly should effects of Obamacare's 2014 provisions be felt?
I believe that Democrats can gain seats, or at least not lose them, in 2014, and stand to hold the White House in 2016. The reasons for this are several. First, demographics. Young people, Hispanics, blacks, and women vote Democrat, and the angry white males who make up the core Republican voter base are diminishing as a percentage of the population.
Second, people are fed up with Republican tactics of denigrating women and minorities, thumping bibles, stonewalling tax increases, cutting entitlements, manipulating voting rules, and making stupid statements about rape.
Third, the Republican Party is in a downward spiral of infighting that will likely fragment its voter base for a while, with the more numerous but less vocal moderates being locked out of the primary cycle and thus forced to vote for candidates that they dislike.
Democrats face their own challenges, of course, which include being seen as something other than "those guys vaguely in the middle somewhere who aren't Republicans". The Democrats have lacked a consistent ideological voice for decades, and this doesn't seem likely to remedy itself any time soon. But it does make the Democrats the ideal foil for the ideologically fanatical Republicans.
edited 28th Mar '13 6:50:14 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"I've considered that. Being seen as the "reasonable, moderate" party that doesn't force ideological purity on its members has its advantages. It does, however, make it difficult for the party as a whole to support stuff that really matters, especially if it's not universally popular.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Besides, the Democrats' biggest strides in the past century have come when the party has run inspirational, popular candidates pushing strong and idealistic platforms about economic populism and equal rights.
Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.THE UNTHINKABLE HAS HAPPENED AGAIN!
Rush Limbaugh says gay rights is inevitable!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/27/rush-limbaugh-gay-marriage_n_2965936.html
Yeah, we saw that in the LGBT rights thread. I guess someone managed to squeeze a brain cell into Rush's head amid all that bile and venom.

Oops, sorry apparently they weren't actually banned. Just phased out.
edited 27th Mar '13 1:30:23 PM by Wildcard