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Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#51702: Mar 22nd 2013 at 6:05:21 PM

Canadians have a legitimate problem with our talented people moving to the States. I have no idea why. And with the actors, they're actually encouraged to downplay their 'Canadianess'.

Swish Long Live the King Since: Jan, 2001
Long Live the King
#51703: Mar 22nd 2013 at 6:10:13 PM

That FEMA thing — it's more head-in-the-sand BS over climate change. FEMA thinks that we're going to have more and worse flooding events as time goes on; Republicans scream, "CLIMATE CHANGE NOOOOOO" and pass laws to stop it from rezoning likely flood areas. Thus, when those floods happen, the homeowners in question will be unprepared for them and the damages much greater than they would have been otherwise.

Thanks, Republicans, ever so much, for sticking up for the little guy.

This is from this morning, but I wanted to respond with a quick note.

Flood insurance rates are based on the area's risk of flooding(as well as amount of coverage and what, specifically, the policy covers). If Congress won't allow FEMA to declare certain area's "flood prone" then those areas still get lower flood insurance rates(flood insurance, in the US, can always be purchased from the Federal Government*

, and you must have it if you want a mortgage from a government backed lender).

I'm not saying that the reason the Republicans(or Congress as a whole) won't authorize the change is to save people money on their flood insurance... But I do think that it is worth noting.

edited 22nd Mar '13 6:10:39 PM by Swish

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#51704: Mar 22nd 2013 at 6:12:13 PM

And insurance rates are premiums based on risk, so that the insurance facility will have adequate capital to cover your losses. If you deliberately pay less than your risk would indicate, then the insurer may not have sufficient assets to pay out in the event of a major catastrophe.

Just because the government is the insurer doesn't make this formula suddenly false. Apparently Republicans think that the government creates money by magic without any consequences?

edited 22nd Mar '13 6:14:28 PM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Swish Long Live the King Since: Jan, 2001
Long Live the King
#51705: Mar 22nd 2013 at 6:19:32 PM

And insurance rates are premiums based on risk, so that the insurance facility will have adequate capital to cover your losses. If you deliberately pay less than your risk would indicate, then the insurer may not have sufficient assets to pay out in the event of a major catastrophe.

Just because the government is the insurer doesn't make this formula suddenly false.

Oh, I don't disagree with how it should operate. The issue is that if it did, the people that needed flood insurance wouldn't be able to afford it. That or it wouldn't be offered to begin with(just like it was before 1968)...

Apparently Republicans think that the government creates money by magic without any consequences?

Which would make them no different from Democrats...

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#51706: Mar 22nd 2013 at 6:22:45 PM

Which would make them no different from most people, Republican or Democrat. The hypocrisy is that Republicans are quick to criticize government when it creates money, but now they want free stuff. They are also all about moral hazard, except apparently when it applies to people who want to live in a flood zone but can't afford the insurance.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#51707: Mar 22nd 2013 at 6:27:55 PM

Miss Israel: Obama ‘world-class hunk’

Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
Swish Long Live the King Since: Jan, 2001
Long Live the King
#51708: Mar 22nd 2013 at 6:28:11 PM

[up][up]But it's not really the Republicans wanting "free stuff"... They want FEMA to not have a larger budget, which would be the case if they got more regions declared flood zones because FEMA is the organization that does the flood insurance program(which means, on the whole, less "free stuff" for people... So a "completely Republican platform", right?)...

The flood insurance rates bit is sort of a a side benefit...

edited 22nd Mar '13 6:29:15 PM by Swish

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#51709: Mar 22nd 2013 at 6:32:31 PM

So climate change is a conspiracy for FEMA to increase its budget because it's just another greedy, parasitical government organization? It earns points for consistency, at least, if not sanity.

Then of course it is the fault of the government when floods come and there is no agency to mount an organized response.

edited 22nd Mar '13 6:33:28 PM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Achaemenid HGW XX/7 from Ruschestraße 103, Haus 1 Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
HGW XX/7
#51710: Mar 22nd 2013 at 6:45:09 PM

Miss Israel: Obama ‘world-class hunk’

[lol]

Move over Bill Clinton...

Schild und Schwert der Partei
tricksterson Never Trust from Behind you with an icepick Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Never Trust
#51711: Mar 22nd 2013 at 7:51:39 PM

[up]x9 It's called money.

Trump delenda est
RadicalTaoist scratching at .8, just hopin' from the #GUniverse Since: Jan, 2001
scratching at .8, just hopin'
#51712: Mar 22nd 2013 at 8:25:52 PM

Interesting that she said that in light of this. Let's avoid the Israel-Palestine discussion, though I wonder if that statement indicates a shift in U.S.-Israel relations.

Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.
terlwyth Since: Oct, 2010
#51713: Mar 22nd 2013 at 8:31:48 PM

Biden for '16,...I hope not,...it'll mean we'll get a 1968 all over again if we're lucky (more likely 1980,...especially if the opponent is Chris Christie. I'm hoping for Tim Kaine or the Colorado governor,...avoid the North at all costs for there be only doom from that direction (In the past century the Dems have elected from this section Wilson,Cox,Smith, FDR,Stevenson,Kennedy,Humphrey,Mc Govern,Mondale,Dukakis,Kerry,and Obama and only 4 didn't lose)

As it is the Tea Party pretty much has the public around their fingers just by talkig about "personal responsibility",only a Southern Dem can pull through on that.

However if Al Franken took interest that's where I'd go,between trying to overturn Citizens United and probably being able to put through any policy just by being good at the camera ala Ronald Reagan,seems like the best of both worlds. Able to swing things back to the left and sell the ideas a little more.

RadicalTaoist scratching at .8, just hopin' from the #GUniverse Since: Jan, 2001
scratching at .8, just hopin'
#51714: Mar 22nd 2013 at 8:35:38 PM

Everyone's talking Clinton and Biden, who's the new blood? I'd be happy to see Feinstein or Warren become the first lady President, though I fear the job would wreck them.

(What do we call the husband of a female president? The First Gentleman?)

Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#51715: Mar 22nd 2013 at 8:40:50 PM

[up]Think so. And Feinstein? Really? Way too much baggage there for her to stand a chance.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
terlwyth Since: Oct, 2010
#51716: Mar 22nd 2013 at 8:53:57 PM

Naw, I'd give Warren more time,...and besides as one of three actual leftists that might be centrist by European standards,...she'd probably go the way of George Mc Govern.

No,if female candidates are he key,..then Janet Napolitano seems like the best choice,since Clinton's probably retired and is a little too polarizing,we'd probably get 2004 again.

But it's the outcome of 2014 that will determine things the most.

tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#51717: Mar 22nd 2013 at 8:57:20 PM

I was reading somewhere that the current Mayor of San Antonio might have a shot at it due to his being the speaker at the DNC last year mirrored Obama in 2004.

Would be kinda nice to have a Democrat Texan in the White House.

Obama designating 5 new national monuments on Monday.

Those monuments:

  • Rio Grande del Norte National Monument in New Mexico
  • First State National Monument in Delaware
  • Harriet Tubman Underground Railroad National Monument in Maryland
  • Charles Young Buffalo Soldiers National Monument in Ohio
  • San Juan Islands National Monument in Washington state

edited 22nd Mar '13 9:04:29 PM by tclittle

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#51718: Mar 22nd 2013 at 9:05:25 PM

[up][up][up][up]

A large portion of the Republican Party is vetting Rubio for a 2016 run.

Rand Paul, Bobby Jindal, Paul Ryan, and Scott Walker are all possibilities.

Warren has become the favorite of the Left-Wing of the Democrat Party (as opposed to the Center-Left and Centrist Wings). Just like Jesse Jackson (1988), Jerry Brown (1992), Howard Dean (2004), and John Edwards (2008). Probably not a good sign considering that trend.

And Feinstein has enough baggage to fill several land fills.

edited 22nd Mar '13 11:25:28 PM by DeviantBraeburn

Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#51719: Mar 22nd 2013 at 9:05:41 PM

[up][up]You mean Julian Castro? He's Hispanic which would make for another first. Although there's one big obstacle to him being elected. I'll let you guess.

edited 22nd Mar '13 9:06:37 PM by Kostya

terlwyth Since: Oct, 2010
#51720: Mar 22nd 2013 at 9:06:04 PM

A Dem Californian would be the nicest,...after all the darn Repubs that managed,...and all the times poor Jerry Brown got screwed over.

But that probably won't happen.

I see Castro as more likely the next Veep candidate.

[up][up] Last I checked Brown and Dean got completely destroyed before the nomination,...and all the other left faves that have gotten to nomination (like Mc Govern or Mondale) then got crushed by embarrassingly wide margins.

It's never gonna be Left vs Right,always Centre-left/Centre vs Right/Regressive Right.

edited 22nd Mar '13 9:15:38 PM by terlwyth

tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#51721: Mar 22nd 2013 at 9:06:41 PM

[up][up] Is it due to his race? Or is there something I missed?

[down] Just thought there might be something I might've missed.

edited 22nd Mar '13 9:09:07 PM by tclittle

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#51722: Mar 22nd 2013 at 9:08:20 PM

Look at the first few words in my post. It would be a good way to attack him.

His race isn't a big deal if he's a Democrat. If he was a Republican he could have issues.

edited 22nd Mar '13 9:08:47 PM by Kostya

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#51723: Mar 22nd 2013 at 9:23:36 PM

@Julian Castro

There is no way a mere mayor will ever win a President Nomination.

I personally think the 2016 Democrat Ticket will be Joe Biden/Tim Kaine, and the 2016 Republican Ticket will be Marco Rubio/Mike Pence^.

^ = I was originally gonna put Bobby Jindal as Rubio's running mate, but there is no way the GOP would be able to sell a ticket with no Caucasians in it.

Last I checked Brown and Dean got completely destroyed before the nomination

That's my point.

edited 22nd Mar '13 10:38:10 PM by DeviantBraeburn

Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#51724: Mar 22nd 2013 at 9:27:30 PM

Considering the horror stories of the Republican Primary system, Rubio ain't gonna get past. Too brown, you see.

terlwyth Since: Oct, 2010
#51725: Mar 22nd 2013 at 9:29:56 PM

Yeah Biden/Kaine and/or Cuomo but as for the GOP probably Christie/Paul maybe Mc Donnell.

edited 22nd Mar '13 9:31:14 PM by terlwyth


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