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Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#51628: Mar 21st 2013 at 6:21:04 PM

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because they dont want the economy to recover while a Democrat is president.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#51629: Mar 21st 2013 at 6:38:42 PM

While Obama is in office? I thought they didn't approve of those things no matter what.

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#51630: Mar 21st 2013 at 6:44:37 PM

[up] Also they don't approve of a minimum wage increase because it would reduce their backers profit margins (hell for most it would actually be their profit margins, not even their backers).

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#51631: Mar 21st 2013 at 7:02:49 PM

They claim to believe in non-interventionist solutions to economic problems. "That which governs best governs least." A minimum wage is a form of government.

DirectorCannon Since: Nov, 2011
#51632: Mar 21st 2013 at 7:21:21 PM

Good lord, this political climate is distressing. Government on the verge of shutdown, and the GOP refuses to change its definition of 'compromise' from "bend over backwards to accommodate us!" Just... God.

Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
V
#51634: Mar 22nd 2013 at 1:21:05 AM

Let Government shut down completely and then watch the Republicans' reaction when a Russian Tu-160 bomber flies over the White House...

edited 22nd Mar '13 1:21:14 AM by Greenmantle

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BestOf FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC! from Finland Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC!
#51635: Mar 22nd 2013 at 7:05:16 AM

According to the BBC World News Service, a court in the US has ordered tobacco companies to fund an ad campaign that would explain the dangers of smoking, as well as detailing the history of the lies that tobacco adverts have told people in the past. The tobacco companies would have to list their lies and apologise for them publicly.

I think this is a very good thing.

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Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#51636: Mar 22nd 2013 at 7:30:49 AM

That FEMA thing — it's more head-in-the-sand BS over climate change. FEMA thinks that we're going to have more and worse flooding events as time goes on; Republicans scream, "CLIMATE CHANGE NOOOOOO" and pass laws to stop it from rezoning likely flood areas. Thus, when those floods happen, the homeowners in question will be unprepared for them and the damages much greater than they would have been otherwise.

Thanks, Republicans, ever so much, for sticking up for the little guy.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
V
#51637: Mar 22nd 2013 at 7:35:16 AM

^

You're not forgetting the FEMA Conspiracy Theories, aren't you? That is another factor, especially on the outer edges of the Republican Party.

Keep Rolling On
Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#51638: Mar 22nd 2013 at 7:38:13 AM

In this situation though, FEMA is just going "There's a chance of major flooding, so we want to let people know so they can prepare. We may be wrong, but better safe than sorry."

And the Republicans are just going, "No! Global warming isn't a problem. BETTER RIGHT THAN SAFE!"

[up] And FEMA was so incompetent around Katrina that I don't think it's a problem.

edited 22nd Mar '13 7:38:37 AM by Zendervai

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#51639: Mar 22nd 2013 at 7:38:39 AM

...People still take the FEMA threat seriously after Katrina?

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#51640: Mar 22nd 2013 at 7:47:41 AM

FEMA was gutted by Bush, then it was, as a direct consequence, incompetent to deal with Katrina. Obama restored it and put competent people in charge, and it dealt with Sandy much better. Cause and effect is really simple sometimes.

edited 22nd Mar '13 7:48:01 AM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#51641: Mar 22nd 2013 at 8:05:29 AM

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Nuh-uh. FEMA didnty do anything, it was all a secret librul plot to keep chris christie in office instead of real conservatives.

</conspiracy theorist>

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#51642: Mar 22nd 2013 at 8:06:25 AM

Huh? I thought Bush used it for political patronage by appointing a buddy of his (president of something called the Arabian Horses Association) as its head.

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Lost in Space
#51643: Mar 22nd 2013 at 8:08:24 AM

Yes, he used it for patronage. Then everyone was all surprised when FEMA wasn't competently led. Durrrrrrrrrr.

It's something of a meme: Republicans believe that government doesn't work. When they get in office, they try to prove it.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
QuestionMarc Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#51645: Mar 22nd 2013 at 8:17:43 AM

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because despite how silly and insane they are, they also have the vast majority of funding and the bigger media empires to keep a decent amount of the populace remembering that no matter how incompetent republicans are, Liberals are devil worshipping commie nazis.

QuestionMarc Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#51646: Mar 22nd 2013 at 8:21:58 AM

I was doing humor, but the more you know.

... You guys ever really want to move out the US sometimes?

I know the "Moving To Canada" meme and all, but I'm curious to know.

Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#51647: Mar 22nd 2013 at 8:25:41 AM

I've debated it. Especially since once I have my degree in graphic design, I could theoretically move to any number of other more sane countries.

rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#51648: Mar 22nd 2013 at 8:30:20 AM

I've thought about it, but then I figured I'd have to deal with worse racial crap than in America, and everywhere else I could go is run by the right, so unless things got really shitty I'd prefer to stay here.

Hugging a Vanillite will give you frostbite.
Blueeyedrat Since: Oct, 2010
#51649: Mar 22nd 2013 at 8:52:04 AM

Regarding the "Move to Canada" meme, I wouldn't recommend it at the moment; the Conservative Party of Canada is better and worse than the GOP. Better, because there aren't quite as many fundamentalists/corporate shills/complete nutters (though, don't get me wrong, there are still plenty). Worse, because they have a majority in Parliament and one of the aforementioned nutters is the freaking Prime Minister.

edited 22nd Mar '13 8:52:34 AM by Blueeyedrat

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#51650: Mar 22nd 2013 at 8:57:29 AM

There's been an overall conservative movement in global politics of late, abetted by the financial crisis, when the most strident voices managed to get heard over the sensible ones. Hopefully the trend will reverse itself sooner or later.

The U.S. still has the most conservative politics of any First World nation, though, which makes the "move to Canada/Mexico/wherever" meme particularly facepalm-worthy when it comes from Republicans.

edited 22nd Mar '13 8:58:09 AM by Fighteer

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