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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
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This is Bachmann dear troper,did you expect logic for too long?
The "regulation" bit might have a point as pharmacological research is very slowed down at times - but even so, I'd like not to become a zombie from Alzheimer meds, and the tax claim is indefensible anyway.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanBased on the context I'd assume the regulation bit refers to things that make sure the meds don't kill you or give you a worse problem. I'd rather not play Russian roulette with medicine and if I have to pay a higher cost for that then so be it.
Coulter you are a toad.
Calling any living president a rapist is way over the line and should get you crucified although I know it won't happen. I also object to her use of the word "forcible." There is no such thing. Rape is rape.
If you want to get rid of regulations that obstruct medical advances, there's a huge line of research that has been banned for a long time in different parts of the US: stem cell research.
Get rid of the regulations obstructing stem cell research if you want to see rapid advances in medicine.
Quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur....Also, I had to look up what she meant by Ted Kennedy having the "only confirmed kill" in the war on women... and wasn't that an accident? And all he did wrong was running away from the crime scene without reporting it after the woman died which was something he later plead guilty to and served jailtime for?
@Kostya
She also managed to be sexist as well, saying that Sandra Fluke's hairstyle "is birth control enough". Well, if she can judge Sandra Fluke for her looks, I can: Coulter looks like the rotting, desiccated corpse of Britney Spears mid-drug binge.
Coulter is just being Coulter - a polemicist who needs to make noise in order to be heard. She isn't a bad writer, she just chooses to write evil things, and the more we give her attention, the less annoying she'll be. Hell, even I'm guilty of posting a Coulter link (a couple of pages ago) and saying how much it annoy me. And now I'm commenting on yours, the whole thing is just an endless cycle.
Thus, I propose: whenever someone posts a link about Ann Coulter on this thread, we respond with STARVE THE BEAST and nothing else.
Yes, though one could argue that it should have ended his career. I personally expect a higher standard than that in public servants. Still, it is a persistent allegation that Ted Kennedy basically said "screw this I'm outta here" and left his passenger to die.
edited 17th Mar '13 8:37:32 AM by Achaemenid
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Untrue. Their immigration reform plan, their economic policy etc. They might be wrong, but they aren't hatred. Being pro-life or anti-contraception doesn't make a person necessarily evil - those are valid policy objectives that deserve to be examined and engaged with. Saying, "I think we should have less immigration because the economy can't take it" is not (necessarily) vitriol. Saying "lol, Sandra Fluke's ugly ROFLMAO" does not deserve to be engaged with. As much as they may peddle hatred, they still convinced 61 million Americans to vote for them in the last election - dismissing their policy as "hatred thinly-veiled as policy" is to ignore why so many Americans hold the same values, or values similar enough that they would back them.
EDIT: The Steubenville football players have been found delinquent of sexual assault.
Trent Mays and Ma'lik Richmond had been accused of sexually assaulting a female acquaintance while she was severely intoxicated. Video and photo footage from the night of the incident spread across the internet soon after, drawing national attention to the case.
Mays and Richmond, both football players at Steubenville High School, received delinquent verdicts on all three charges. Delinquent is the guilty equivalent for juveniles. They were both convicted of digitally penetrating the West Virginia girl, and Mays was also found guilty of illegal use of a minor in nudity-oriented material. The boys will serve their sentence at a juvenile detention facility until they turn 21.
edited 17th Mar '13 9:14:02 AM by Achaemenid
Schild und Schwert der ParteiMy point was that if you're going to argue (as Bachmann did just now) that unnecessary regulations are obstructing important medical research you should make sure that you're not supporting such obstructionism yourself, as most of the Republican party has been doing in the past decades.
I made my point with one example; I didn't mean to imply that it was the whole problem.
edited 17th Mar '13 9:21:57 AM by BestOf
Quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur.Pointing out hypocrisy in politicians seems about as pointed to me as pointing out clouds in a stormy sky.
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And justice prevails, of a sort. They should be serving as adults for rape, IMO, and it was a lot more than just two people involved. But it's the best verdict we can hope for under the circumstances.
It is true that not all of the Republican Party's platform positions are based on hate. Some are based on fundamentalist Christian values, some are based on the genuine belief that rich people are better than everyone else, some are based on a lack of understanding and/or empathy for anything that isn't part of their idealized vision of America, and some are based on inbred thinking patterns that are impervious to anything outside of their information bubble.
I'm sure there are one or two good ideas left over once you take all that out. Maybe.
edited 17th Mar '13 9:27:43 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
My point was not that we should vote Republican, it was that the Republican party and voting base cannot simply be dismissed as "hatred". Those positions can be engaged with, whilst dismissing them serves nobody.
I'm a bit iffy on that point. Treating children the same way as adults is rarely a good idea when it comes to crime and punishment, especially in a prison system like the USA's. They will be transferred, I gather, to an adult prison when they turn 21. I agree that more people should be punished, but, ultimately, the private nature of rape means that evidence simply can't be gathered. That can and should be alleviated, with evidentiary rules that make it easier on the victim, but by the same token they can't be relaxed too much or miscarriage of justice may well follow.
edited 17th Mar '13 9:39:16 AM by Achaemenid
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