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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
That's generally my view. The only Republicans I really like (in the sense that would vote for them over some Democrats) are Christie and Huntsman. However, if I had to pick one of the CPAC bunch to be President, Rand Paul would be second pick after JB. Given that the choice is "social conservative/economic libertarian" or "social libertarian/economic libertarian", he seems the second best of a bad bunch.
Schild und Schwert der Partei@Septimus: It's another one of these non-issues that Republicans seem to love latching onto lately.
Very big Daydream Believer. "That's not knowledge, that's a crapshoot!" -Al Murray "Welcome to QI" -Stephen FrySenator Graham will 'make life difficult' in Senate if denied Benghazi attack survivors
Ted Cruz: Conservatives are winning
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edited 16th Mar '13 5:05:50 PM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016@Ultrayellow: You are now aware that Rand Paul's filibuster was a bait-and-switch
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Federal appeals court rejects CIA drone secrecy ruling
Poll: Only 10 percent of Israelis view Obama favorably
edited 16th Mar '13 5:14:18 PM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016On the one hand, yes. His filibuster wasn't explicitly about the aspects of our current policy that I find worrying.
On the other hand, though, it's good to see someone in the Senate finally challenge current foreign policy at all. Our foreign policy has not improved enough under Obama, and the left has now declared victory and gone home. So if I have to see the opposition to current policy coming from Rand Paul, I'll take it. It's better than nothing, which is what we've had for the last four years.
@Appeals Court: Good. I want Obama and Bush to go down in history together as a thwarted attempt to expand executive power and the influence of the CIA.
edited 16th Mar '13 5:13:46 PM by Ultrayellow
Except for 4/1/2011. That day lingers in my memory like...metaphor here...I should go.I agree. Rand Paul is the minority, sometimes the lone, voice of a less interventionist view, against a neoconservative norm that has been common throughout the executive since FDR through Truman, Eisenhower, Johnson, Reagan, Bushes and Obama. I'm not entirely against neoconservative foreign policy, but it has led to its abuses, and it's about time to rein them in.
Nixon was very Neo-Conservative
Only Ford and Carter* didn't use Neo-Conservative methods.
- = Carter did authorize the infamous Operation Eagle Claw, but that was only as a last resort.
edited 16th Mar '13 5:32:46 PM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016Also, Carter initiated the state of emergency
, though that was because of Iran crisis.
I don't think it's fair to call FDR and his policy neoconservative. WW 2, unlike 9/11, really was an extenuating circumstance, that excused a military response. That said, I agree about all the other presidents you named.
Except for 4/1/2011. That day lingers in my memory like...metaphor here...I should go.Eric Cantor: 'Our schools are too dangerous'
That's debatable but I'm not going to do so here; we have other threads for it
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My point is that FDR seemed to be very eager to use a destructive nuclear weapon. Truman was at least hesitant on using it.
Donald Trump: Immigration reform is a ‘suicide mission’ for GOP
I've started tuning out as soon as I hear the word "Trump."
Eric Cantor, on the other hand, has a good point. I'm skeptical about his planned solutions, but he has correctly identified a problem.
edited 16th Mar '13 6:49:02 PM by Ultrayellow
Except for 4/1/2011. That day lingers in my memory like...metaphor here...I should go.Guys, the problem is that poverty isn't being addressed. In places of concentrated poverty is where we're having the most problems with our kids. Like, in places where poverty is like seventy percent or more of the population. In other places our students appear to be quite competitive with the rest of the world. In places where poor students are in the minority, those students tend to be in the top placements when compared to students of other first world countries. Even in places where poor kids make up half the students they still tend to be competitive with the rest of the world.
Cantor has provided an absolute non solution. "School choice" isn't going to solve the myriad problems facing our schools.
Also, we have like three threads about education reform. Maybe we should revive the first one with this.
edited 16th Mar '13 10:04:16 PM by AceofSpades

Rand Paul has his good sides and bad sides.
He's soothing to a certain kind of liberal because his libertarian leanings make him a good go-to for social liberals.
Personally, I loved his filibuster, and thought it was truly heroic and admirable, as well as being something none of the Democrats had the backbone to do.
Economic libertarianism, however, will ruin this country. Anyone who learned economics from Ayn Rand should not be leading the government.
edited 16th Mar '13 3:45:11 PM by Ultrayellow
Except for 4/1/2011. That day lingers in my memory like...metaphor here...I should go.