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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Are the Black Panthers discussed that much? My history class just mentioned that they're a black supremacy group prone to violence.
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I just feel like it would come off as an attempt to say "Well, they weren't so bad." I'd need to know all of what it says before I make a judgement though.
edited 11th Mar '13 6:45:12 PM by Kostya
Those are not the same things. More often than not, they're different things.
Fight smart, not fair.Republican budget plan seeks $4.6 trillion more in spending cuts
Sad, but true.
EDIT: Anyone ever read 'Lies My Teacher Told Me: Everything Your American History Textbook Got Wrong' ?
edited 11th Mar '13 8:03:48 PM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016I've read it, Deviant. And own it. But then, I had two parents who were history major/minors and would discuss it at the dinner table. My dad was pretty conservative, but he didn't appreciate it if I didn't actually know the facts of a thing. And my mom's a teacher, so I sort of already knew a lot of the tomfoolery that goes on in the profession BEFORE I read that book.
But anyway, I think Kostya's point is that private schools shouldn't be allowed to go so far off the track that well known hate groups are promoted as noble protectors of the community when they were anything but.
For a while I went to a private school that was not all that bad, but it was in a network of schools using a curriculum that originated from Texas. When there was a meet, it was actually really creepy to meet the people who had no clue how the world worked. Those schools had an extremely high rate of people who switched to public school for grades 11 and 12 because the universities in southern Ontario stopped accepting students because they tended to have absolutely no idea what they were doing. Hell, they'd be lost at the university I go to, and it's a Christian university. First mandatory class: History of Philosophy, looking at all the major figures and how to pick apart different philosophies without any discrimination on who was targeted.
I think more schools need a class like that.
Welcome to the wonders of the textbook market. The place with the most strict rules (Texas) basically gets to set the standards for everywhere, since publishers want to be able to sell to as many places as possible. Plus, it's a big chunk of the population, so ignoring them is a bad idea from a marketing perspective.
Writing a post-post apocalypse LitRPG on RR. Also fanfic stuff.I actually think I know where this came from. Dragons A Fantasy Made Real, a 2004 British mockumentary that used this exact same explanation to explain how dragons could breathe fire. It was on the Discovery Channel... I think these are the same sorts of people who think paranormal phenomena happened in history because they watched it on The History Channel!
Wizard Needs Food BadlyIt was a private school system.
Otherwise the public Ontario curriculum at least isn't that bad. It's a little obsessed with Canadian history (There's only like 200 years. Do we really have to go over it every single year?) But it tries to be more neutral.
edited 12th Mar '13 5:24:03 AM by Zendervai
Hey, we have US History, and our elementary schools reteach the same stuff every year and never even make it to WWII. (Granted, we usually start that in 1607, not 1776, but still.) Of course, what parts get emphasis depend on the teacher's preferences; my fifth-grade teacher was a big Civil War fanatic, so we had a debate on North vs. South (among other highlights).
Our history books (we never got to this stuff because we always ran out of time, but they were there) usually mentioned the Soviet Union only in the context of its conflict with the United States and its forcible conquest of Eastern Europe. We got the facts in elementary school, and only started digging into the causes in HS. Again, excepting the Civil War in fifth grade, where my teacher actually went into some depth as to what everyone was fighting over (and we were more-or-less able to grasp "federalism vs. antifederalism" as well as "slaves and not slaves").
I wonder if there's any school in the US that teaches that the huge majority of Germany's casualties in WWII were suffered in the front where most of them were committed - the Eastern Front, against the USSR.
I wonder if there's an American school that teaches that the main front of WWII for Japan was in China, where the vast majority of Japan's forces and resources were spent.
My guesstimate is that American schools would probably teach their students that the largest contribution to the Allied cause was made by the US, rather than the USSR. I've even heard Americans say that WWII started in 1941! I think it's bad enough when Europeans say it started in 1939 (when Japan had already been at war with China for two years...)
EDIT: Well, that was off-topic. Sorry about that.
edited 12th Mar '13 9:26:00 AM by BestOf
Quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur.

I actually agree. But until the Black Panthers are depicted as the hate group they were, I really don't see the issue with the truth of the early days of the KKK (or even the Nazi party) being told...