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#50977: Mar 11th 2013 at 8:46:12 AM

Yeah, when you run into that kind of stubborn ignorance, it's best to just facepalm and leave. You can't kill them and you can't convince them, so all you do by staying in the argument is grant them legitimacy.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#50978: Mar 11th 2013 at 8:47:08 AM

But, overall, that was my point. These are the sort of people running the "conservative" movement. Their reaction to being questioned for their beliefs is to plug their ears and start reciting the story of John Galt getting progressively louder and screamy-er the more you try to talk to them.

Its acting like a 5 year old until you get your way or everyone who disagrees gives up and walks away.

Its why the moderate and independent voter faction keeps growing. because anyone conservative who questions their worldview is thrown out for being a RINO

edited 11th Mar '13 8:50:17 AM by Midgetsnowman

deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#50979: Mar 11th 2013 at 9:07:13 AM

Their reaction to being questioned for their beliefs is to plug their ears and start reciting the story of John Galt getting progressively louder and screamy-er the more you try to talk to them.

...But... But... That would take years! D:

TheStarshipMaxima NCC - 1701 Since: Jun, 2009
NCC - 1701
#50980: Mar 11th 2013 at 9:12:34 AM

because anyone conservative who questions their worldview is thrown out for being a RINO

Think we should start a club? Maybe get some nice jackets...

It was an honor
Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#50981: Mar 11th 2013 at 9:13:24 AM

[up]

I think such a club would technically be a political party?

PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#50982: Mar 11th 2013 at 9:13:29 AM

Only if the Jackets have a Rhinoceros on the back.

RhymeBeat True colors from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
True colors
#50983: Mar 11th 2013 at 9:16:27 AM

It occurs to me the blatant bias that the cartoonist that came up with the animal mascots had. Republicans get Elephants, elephants never forget, largest terrestial mammal, intimidating tusks. Democrats get... Donkeys. There is nothing about donkeys that has ever been symbolically positive. Why did the Democrats take it as their symbol anyway?

The Crystal Caverns A bird's gotta sing.
TheStarshipMaxima NCC - 1701 Since: Jun, 2009
NCC - 1701
#50984: Mar 11th 2013 at 9:16:30 AM

I think such a club would technically be a political party

Sh. It's all part of the plan to bring about the downfall of the poser Republicans.

Only if there's a picture of a rhinoceros on the back

A Jedi rhino with the words "The Force is With Us" underneath.

Why did the Democrats take it as their symbol anyway

They saw Shrek?

edited 11th Mar '13 9:17:33 AM by TheStarshipMaxima

It was an honor
Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#50985: Mar 11th 2013 at 9:19:51 AM

I think everyone should have to explain their worldview and then have to answer the question, "But what if you're wrong?" without just saying, "but I'm not" because that question forces introspection. I'm a Christian, but I got to the point where I am now by analyzing my beliefs and working through my problems with Christianity. I've met atheists on the other hand (this is not a crack against atheism, just those few individuals) who refused to consider the possibility that God might exist, in a "I never thought about it and I never will" kind of way.

That's kind of how I feel when I listen to these people. Doing that, ignoring the facts, causes people to essentially, "build their house on sand" where it will fall apart given a big enough shock while "building a house upon the rock" will allow you to hold your own, legitimately, not just by scaring people away.

Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#50986: Mar 11th 2013 at 9:20:21 AM

as I recall, the donkey is at least in part joke on how Andrew Jackson, a democrat, was referred to as a jackass and adopted it as his symbol out of sheer spite for his opponents.

[up]

This,

I arrived at agnosticism/deism and liberal morals because I started out being raised in a fundamentalist church setting that basically ran on "because we/jesus said so" and given i was the kind of kid who9 read and looked up information on mythology, religion, politics, and other things for myself, I eventually came to the conclusion that everything the Seventh-Day Adventist church had taught me was bullshit based on a foundation of pure sand.

edited 11th Mar '13 9:22:26 AM by Midgetsnowman

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#50987: Mar 11th 2013 at 9:20:26 AM

The elephant and donkey thing came from a series of political cartoons in Harper's Weekly. They just happened to catch on and eventually the parties embraced them because they couldn't kill them.

edited 11th Mar '13 9:21:09 AM by shimaspawn

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RhymeBeat True colors from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
True colors
#50988: Mar 11th 2013 at 9:24:47 AM

I knew Nast had something to do with it. Nast has his hands on 75% percent of American imagery.

Basically The Republicans called Andrew Jackson a Jackass and it ended up as an Insult Backfire to represent his determination and dedication. Nast used the symbol 30 years later to make fun of the Democrats again.

What I find funny is that everything else about those parties have changed except the name and the mascot animal.

The Crystal Caverns A bird's gotta sing.
Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#50989: Mar 11th 2013 at 9:27:05 AM

which makes it infinitely hilarious when Republicans of the modern day seem to assume Black people should vote for them because Lincoln, while seeming to not notice that in the interim years, they adopted the Solid South Dixiecrats who were once the hated foes of everything republican progressives stood for.

Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#50990: Mar 11th 2013 at 9:46:41 AM

Change Over Time. First Law of History. [lol] Second Law of History: The More Things Change, The More They Stay The Same... Because People Did It. wink Third Law: Know Your Sources... Because Trusting People At Face Value Is For Suckers. evil grin

edited 11th Mar '13 9:48:46 AM by Euodiachloris

Belian In honor of my 50lb pup from 42 Since: Jan, 2001
In honor of my 50lb pup
#50991: Mar 11th 2013 at 9:52:57 AM

<searches for political T-shirts>

"Who would Jesus Deport?"

"Warning: Educated in public school system"

"If you can't convince them, confuse them"

"Everybody poops." With an image of the donkey and the elephant facing away from each other and poop between them.

"Mumble. Grumble. Complain. Wallow. Hope. Dispair. Worry. spaceVote."

"Dinosaurs against Creationism." (not really political, but it made me snicker)

"Elect Bland Compromise for office."

...there were others that I hadn't seen/thought of before, but I don't feel like repeating their comments here.

edited 11th Mar '13 9:56:17 AM by Belian

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Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#50992: Mar 11th 2013 at 11:50:17 AM

I totally want the "Who Would Jesus Deport?" one.

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scratching at .8, just hopin'
#50993: Mar 11th 2013 at 11:58:42 AM

I wanna ask my native friends if anyone's come up with a "Who Would Crazy Horse Deport?" one in response but that seems a bit uncouth.

Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.
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A procrastination in of itself
#50994: Mar 11th 2013 at 12:10:33 PM

For political satire I always liked the "Obama is not a brown skinned anti war socialist who gives away free health care, you're thinking of Jesus" one.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Karkadinn Karkadinn from New Orleans, Louisiana Since: Jul, 2009
Karkadinn
#50995: Mar 11th 2013 at 12:11:39 PM

That's an actual t-shirt?

I will give the company who makes that all of my moneys.

Furthermore, I think Guantanamo must be destroyed.
Lascoden ... from Missouri, USA Since: Nov, 2012
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#50996: Mar 11th 2013 at 1:12:29 PM

[up]I saw a bumper sticker of that one, but not a shirt.

boop
Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
Gunpla is amazing!
#50997: Mar 11th 2013 at 2:08:15 PM

In good news, former detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick and his partner in crime Bobby Ferguson guilty of embezzlement and bribes and all sorts of white collar crimes with no bond due to possible flight risk.

Kwame will be facing at least 15-20 years of prison.

Kwame's dad said the city is doomed, when asked why he said "Read Sodom and Gomorrah" [lol]

edited 11th Mar '13 2:36:50 PM by Thorn14

Pykrete NOT THE BEES from Viridian Forest Since: Sep, 2009
NOT THE BEES
#50998: Mar 11th 2013 at 3:45:30 PM

Huh, I didn't know Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed for embezzling money from the angels — oh wait, there it is. Whoops.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#50999: Mar 11th 2013 at 3:53:45 PM

Midgetsnowman: Yeah, I hate that. I've seen multiple people online that think blacks are stupid and have been tricked into voting against "The party of Lincoln."

To hell with the lot of you. You homophobic, racist assholes should be ashamed.

Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#51000: Mar 11th 2013 at 3:59:49 PM

Appparently she supported DDR as a great way to stay in shape..so I'm sure any day now someone will declare Dance Dance Revolution to be liberal propagan da


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