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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#50951: Mar 10th 2013 at 6:06:42 PM

[up][up]So what happens if they run Rubio and he gets thrashed almost as bad as Romney?

[up]No, Rubio/Bachmann is where it's at.tongue

edited 10th Mar '13 6:07:09 PM by Kostya

RadicalTaoist scratching at .8, just hopin' from the #GUniverse Since: Jan, 2001
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#50952: Mar 10th 2013 at 6:15:39 PM

So what happens if they run Rubio and he gets thrashed almost as bad as Romney?
MICHAEL STEELE/ALLEN WEST 2020!!! (Herman Caine is another possibility if we can dust him off around then)

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
Lascoden ... from Missouri, USA Since: Nov, 2012
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#50954: Mar 10th 2013 at 6:35:25 PM

[up]Steele was the former chairman of the RNC. If you watch The Daily Show, he's the one they kept using the puppet for.

Edit: What chance would Steele have? I mean, he couldn't even win a Senate seat.

edited 10th Mar '13 6:39:16 PM by Lascoden

boop
RadicalTaoist scratching at .8, just hopin' from the #GUniverse Since: Jan, 2001
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#50955: Mar 10th 2013 at 6:36:27 PM

They're also both black Republicans.

Reposting these because they were edited in to a page bottom post:

Wait a second! Paul didn't actually disagree with Holder's position; he was using the filibuster to raise funds?

...and fuck. They're employing the "Salvadoran option" in Iraq.

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#50956: Mar 10th 2013 at 7:05:34 PM

Paul doesn't actually give a damn about the people and just wants money and power. What else is new?

Enkufka Wandering Student ಠ_ಠ from Bay of White fish Since: Dec, 2009
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#50957: Mar 10th 2013 at 7:09:12 PM

And Allen West is a nutter notable for this stuff:

As an Army lieutenant colonel, former Rep. Allen West (R-FL) was relieved of his command, fined $5,000 and eventually allowed to retire in order to avoid court martial for allegedly abusing a prisoner in Iraq. Upon entering Congress, West emerged as one of the body’s top Islamophobes. He also compared food stamps and Social Security to slavery, opposed early voting as an “entitlement,” claimed 80 House Democrats were “members of the Communist Party,” and called Obama supporters a “threat to the gene pool.”

edited 10th Mar '13 7:09:47 PM by Enkufka

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NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#50958: Mar 10th 2013 at 7:28:57 PM

Wait, Allen West was a Lieutenant Colonel? Holy shit, that's terrifying. I knew the guy was nuts (my hometown was in his district, though that's not where I live now), but I didn't realize he used to be that high up in the military.

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.
DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#50959: Mar 10th 2013 at 7:49:49 PM

Anti-Muslim activist Pam Geller turned away from CPAC

Geller's response.

Also on the 'snubbed by CPAC' list: Governor Bob McDonnell

edited 10th Mar '13 7:54:21 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#50960: Mar 10th 2013 at 8:20:54 PM

as was said. they'd likely try running a black candidate willing to tell the repoublican base that black people are lazy, in the deranged hope that one black person saying it will convince all the other black people to "mend their ways"

same as how they somehow expect a Cuban like Rubio to get mexican votes.

whjich is kind of like saying "all latinos look alike"

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#50961: Mar 10th 2013 at 8:31:48 PM

So what will they do if they run a black guy and he gets his ass kicked? My dad seems to think Obama only won the black vote because of his race and he's not alone in that. I don't doubt that some did vote for him based solely on his race but I doubt it was a significant portion.

DrunkGirlfriend from Castle Geekhaven Since: Jan, 2011
#50962: Mar 10th 2013 at 8:38:34 PM

[up] I still think that's the stupidest thing ever. It's like saying that George Bush Jr. only won the white vote because he's white.

It's like people have different views on politics or something.

"I don't know how I do it. I'm like the Mr. Bean of sex." -Drunkscriblerian
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#50963: Mar 10th 2013 at 8:58:36 PM

Well Bush ran against a white guy. Now if Bush was black it would have been interesting to see who got more votes. If they lost then they might actually be forced to acknowledge that their message sucks, not just the candidates they draft.

RadicalTaoist scratching at .8, just hopin' from the #GUniverse Since: Jan, 2001
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#50964: Mar 10th 2013 at 8:59:11 PM

There is, theoretically, a critical point by which the angry white racist voting demographic will have shrunk enough, in comparison to the growing Latino demographic, that the Republican Party can afford to abandon the former to court the latter.

Alternatively, they could just work on those voter suppression measures by pushing harder at the state level. They did win a net increase in governor's seats in the last elections, after all.

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Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#50965: Mar 10th 2013 at 9:49:07 PM

@Kostya: if a black republican loses, they'll probably just attribute it to something racist like "black people didnt like being told the truth even by one of their own" rather than face up to the possibility non-republican voters might have opinions for reasons other than stupidity.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#50966: Mar 11th 2013 at 4:36:50 AM

So you don't expect them to change no matter what happens? I feel like they'd get it eventually.

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Lost in Space
#50967: Mar 11th 2013 at 6:26:08 AM

The Republican Party has staked their claim on not changing a single part of their core message. It will take multiple decisive election losses for them to figure out that what they are selling isn't being bought anymore.

At that point it's 50/50 as to whether they will try to genuinely change or switch from a political party to a revolutionary force.

edited 11th Mar '13 6:26:49 AM by Fighteer

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Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#50968: Mar 11th 2013 at 6:51:26 AM

@Kostya: I think the people who realize the republican party need to change are being drowned out or booted out by the "True believers" who are every bit as fundamnetalist as christians are in the rural midwest.

Which is to say. when given a choice between facts and ideology, they will declare facts lies from the pit of hell and believe their opinions are truth and anyone who disagrees is out to destroy america.

case in point. I had a facebook discussion with a friend of a friend once where we debated morals and what we felt was most important to a functioning society. When I said I prized altruism over my own aggrandizement, he accused me of violently assaulting him and his rights and started quoting ayn rand directly. Because apparently in his world, even thinking altruism should be a basic human thing to do meant I was out to violently jackboot his rights.

edited 11th Mar '13 6:56:43 AM by Midgetsnowman

Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#50969: Mar 11th 2013 at 8:07:56 AM

[up] Wow, I'd just want to punch him. Why would you bother making friends if you had no altruistic intentions? Most people make friends because they want to spend time with someone, not because they want contacts or resources said 'friend' can get them.

And seriously, if the guy was actually a Randian objectivist, he wouldn't have talked like that. He should have mentally filed you under the 'shmuck' folder and waited until he'd be able to get one up on you, because otherwise, he made it significantly harder to do that and fulfill the axioms of Randian Objectivism.

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Lost in Space
#50970: Mar 11th 2013 at 8:09:19 AM

That just means that he's a stupid Randian — one who mouths the precepts without really understanding them.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
RadicalTaoist scratching at .8, just hopin' from the #GUniverse Since: Jan, 2001
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#50971: Mar 11th 2013 at 8:14:14 AM

Or a hypocrite only partially aware of his hypocrisy. Five bucks says he's depended on the altruism of others in the past and will do so again in the future.

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Belian In honor of my 50lb pup from 42 Since: Jan, 2001
In honor of my 50lb pup
#50972: Mar 11th 2013 at 8:17:03 AM

No bet.

Yu hav nat sein bod speeling unntil know. (cacke four undersandig tis)the cake is a lie!
Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#50973: Mar 11th 2013 at 8:26:21 AM

[up][up]

considering he's the son of a rich state republican congressman/lawyer, I'd imagine he's had lots of altruism thrown his direction via his dad/

edited 11th Mar '13 8:29:23 AM by Midgetsnowman

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Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#50975: Mar 11th 2013 at 8:38:13 AM

Not really. By the point he started copypasta-ing huge blocks of the Fountainhead I just sort of remarked that this debate was likely to gfo nowhere, that Ayn Rand was a nutcase, and let him believe he had "won"


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