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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#50651: Mar 5th 2013 at 2:42:52 PM

One of my friends thinks trash pickup is a service that should be provided for by the government. He also disagrees with Obamacare's mandate because "Healthcare isn't a necessity. Just go to the emergency room.". Yeah...

theweirdKiddokun What a Wonderful World! from Last Place in the Race Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
What a Wonderful World!
#50652: Mar 5th 2013 at 2:47:32 PM

....But it is? Well I mean for New York it is. I assume that it is the same for other states. (the garbage pick up)

Plus who going to pay for that him, the hospital, his government, or the insurance that he says is not needed. (health care)

edited 5th Mar '13 2:53:22 PM by theweirdKiddokun

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DrunkGirlfriend from Castle Geekhaven Since: Jan, 2011
#50653: Mar 5th 2013 at 2:49:37 PM

[up] It's a municipality thing. In the city I live in, trash service is private, but the city mandates which garbage collector I use. The next city over, the trash service is private, but you can choose between several collectors.

"I don't know how I do it. I'm like the Mr. Bean of sex." -Drunkscriblerian
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#50654: Mar 5th 2013 at 2:51:12 PM

Trash collection is a boondoggle. Why in the heck wouldn't it just be public, with one rate that everyone pays and standardized schedules? In my area it's one of those "massive numbers of small providers" deals, which would seem to screw with anything resembling economies of scale.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
V
#50655: Mar 5th 2013 at 2:57:04 PM

In Britain, it's a service that has to be performed by local Councils by Statute. Often they are sub-contracted to contractors and include recycling collections as well.

If you're wondering where the funding comes from, it's the same as all Councils — Central Government Grant or Council Taxes (Council Tax on residential property, Business Rates on businesses, Parking Charges etc...).

edited 5th Mar '13 2:57:56 PM by Greenmantle

Keep Rolling On
AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#50656: Mar 5th 2013 at 3:02:37 PM

I'm pretty sure it's municipal here. The county of Garland even gives us trash cans and recycling receptacles. (And it all has City of Garland printed on the side, so that's how I'm figuring it.) I assume it's the same for counties and cities surrounding me, but I don't know about the rest of the state.

terlwyth Since: Oct, 2010
#50657: Mar 5th 2013 at 3:05:40 PM

Remember the Voter-ID controversy in Pennsylvania??? Looks like the GOP is trying the same bullshit in North Carolina.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#50658: Mar 5th 2013 at 3:06:16 PM

Kiddokun: It's mandatory here too. I was just pointing out the hypocrisy in what government services he supports and what he doesn't.

theweirdKiddokun What a Wonderful World! from Last Place in the Race Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
What a Wonderful World!
#50659: Mar 5th 2013 at 3:14:30 PM

[up]Oh I see.

It is weird to see how different it is for other cities.

The Reaper Games starts anew.
Lennik (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#50660: Mar 5th 2013 at 4:58:04 PM

So, assuming nobody's mentioned it already, anyone want to talk about Eric Holder's claim that Obama has the authority to kill Americans on U.S. soil without a trial? Because I really want this to be nothing more than hysteria.

That's right, boys. Mondo cool.
AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#50661: Mar 5th 2013 at 5:03:09 PM

You seem to have missed the various uses of "hypothetical" and "unlikely to happen" in that article. To do such a thing would be disastrous as a political move, not to mention a waste of resources on the practical level. It's kind of their job to consider all hypothetical uses of power that they won't actually use.

And it's a response to Ron Paul, of all people. I don't know why they'd take him seriously enough to write him an answer on anything. He's the one that would ruin us with all this lassez faire crap.

edited 5th Mar '13 5:03:41 PM by AceofSpades

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#50662: Mar 5th 2013 at 5:04:28 PM

It's legit, I think; someone brought it up here sometime ago, when the federal government passed a law/bill/whatever that gave the President the legal power to declare drone strikes against any US citizen anywhere on the planet if he has reason (persumably via CIA intel) to suspect them of being a terrorist or collaborating with terrorists, without bothering to check if they could simply apprehend them. Theoretically, at least.

edited 5th Mar '13 5:05:28 PM by MarqFJA

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
DrunkGirlfriend from Castle Geekhaven Since: Jan, 2011
#50663: Mar 5th 2013 at 5:07:52 PM

[up] That was in the old version of the bill. The shit hit the fan and Congress changed the wording to disallow strikes against US citizens. Then Obama signed off on it.

edited 5th Mar '13 5:08:04 PM by DrunkGirlfriend

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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#50664: Mar 5th 2013 at 5:13:51 PM

... And none of you guys thought to bring it up here, why?!

Oh wait. Was it mentioned in the Drone Strike thread instead? I hadn't been following that thread.

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
DrunkGirlfriend from Castle Geekhaven Since: Jan, 2011
#50665: Mar 5th 2013 at 5:15:54 PM

[up] It was a while ago. I know that I talked about it.

"I don't know how I do it. I'm like the Mr. Bean of sex." -Drunkscriblerian
AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#50666: Mar 5th 2013 at 5:17:01 PM

It's been brought up SEVERAL TIMES. And discussed ad nauseum. Jesus Marq, we don't talk about one single issue all the time. And yes, something like this does now belong in the drone strike thread. I think? It does have to do with something that would hypothetically happen here on US soil. So I don't know.

edited 5th Mar '13 5:17:30 PM by AceofSpades

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#50667: Mar 5th 2013 at 5:22:04 PM

It's been brought up SEVERAL TIMES. And discussed ad nauseum.
Gah. Must've been really distracted that idea, because I'm sure I would've remembered such an important thing at least vaguely.

Jesus Marq, we don't talk about one single issue all the time.
I know, I'm just having trouble fathoming the idea that I had either completely forgotten about that or completely glossed over it despite regularly checking the threa—

... Wait. Oh damn, I just remembered that there were a few times over the past few months when I found 5 or more pages had sprung up overnight, and I skipped over them expecting from past observations of the thread that "if a really major thing came up overnight, the discussion would last for around 10 or so pages".

[down] Right.

edited 5th Mar '13 5:26:44 PM by MarqFJA

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#50668: Mar 5th 2013 at 5:22:45 PM

Drone strikes are off topic for this thread. Please stay off that topic here.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#50670: Mar 5th 2013 at 5:35:58 PM

Speaker Boehner: I won’t make practice of passing bills without GOP support
... The Speaker of the House has veto power over whether a bill passes in the House or not?

edited 5th Mar '13 5:36:14 PM by MarqFJA

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#50671: Mar 5th 2013 at 5:39:11 PM

Concerning the Boehner thing, that's a really short-sighted way to go about things. Yeah, it means less debate I guess, but ignoring most of the potential bills in favor of bills from a party that really doesn't have America's best interest at heart, doesn't sound like it'll turn out well.

Enkufka Wandering Student ಠ_ಠ from Bay of White fish Since: Dec, 2009
Wandering Student ಠ_ಠ
#50673: Mar 5th 2013 at 6:21:09 PM

It was announced today that the DOW has hit a record high while household income has hit a decade low.

Very big Daydream Believer. "That's not knowledge, that's a crapshoot!" -Al Murray "Welcome to QI" -Stephen Fry
DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#50674: Mar 5th 2013 at 6:44:14 PM

[up] Speaking of Record breakers:

Anti-government extremist groups reach record levels

edited 5th Mar '13 7:01:09 PM by DeviantBraeburn

Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
PhilippeO Since: Oct, 2010
#50675: Mar 5th 2013 at 7:12:51 PM

[up][up][up][up] & [up][up][up]

About Boehner, Its about Hastert Rule

The majority of the majority is a governing principle (not a legal procedure) used by Republican Speakers of the House of Representatives since the mid-1990s to effectively limit the power of the minority party to bring bills up for a vote on the floor of the House. Under the majority of the majority doctrine, the Speaker of the United States House of Representatives will not allow a vote on a bill unless a majority of the majority party supports the bill

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majority_of_the_majority

edited 5th Mar '13 7:13:54 PM by PhilippeO


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