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TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#50626: Mar 4th 2013 at 8:13:41 PM

Only investment in town? Why can't they invest internationally?!

Swish Long Live the King Since: Jan, 2001
Long Live the King
#50627: Mar 4th 2013 at 8:26:20 PM

Sequestration will only affect the creditworthiness of the United States to the degree that any austerity measure does, by putting people out of work and thereby reducing both present and future revenues .

... Austerity measure?

Okay, this is going to need to be explained to me. The US is still going to spend ~$20 Billion more this year, than it did last year(assuming the budget is ever approved). And that's including the cuts involved with the sequestration...

Yes agencies are shelving things they were planning to do, and cutting expendetures... But that's because they were planning on getting the increase in spending the sequestration took away and are now having to backpedal because they didn't expect something passed two years ago to take effect....

If sequestration can be considered Austerity, then by the same logic not getting a pay raise any given year is, essentially, a pay-cut.

... So that shit's going to need to be explained before I buy the whole "austerity measure" bit.

DrunkGirlfriend from Castle Geekhaven Since: Jan, 2011
#50628: Mar 4th 2013 at 8:39:06 PM

@Tomu: Then they'd be investing out of town. tongue

@Swish: Well, if you take inflation into account, not getting a pay-raise could be considered a cut in pay.

edited 4th Mar '13 8:40:52 PM by DrunkGirlfriend

"I don't know how I do it. I'm like the Mr. Bean of sex." -Drunkscriblerian
Pykrete NOT THE BEES from Viridian Forest Since: Sep, 2009
NOT THE BEES
#50629: Mar 4th 2013 at 8:43:43 PM

If wages had kept up with inflation over the last several decades, minimum wage would be over $20/hr. The fact that it's not but costs of living have skyrocketed to demand such in nearly any large city is, yes, for all practical purposes a pay cut.

That's not even counting how many companies slash hours (and thus how much employees can get paid in a day) to dodge healthcare requirements.

edited 4th Mar '13 8:44:41 PM by Pykrete

RadicalTaoist scratching at .8, just hopin' from the #GUniverse Since: Jan, 2001
scratching at .8, just hopin'
#50630: Mar 4th 2013 at 9:16:37 PM

Populations have increased. Aging populations have increased. Health care costs have increased. Energy costs have increased. Consumer populations around the world (people who can spend money on stuff) have increased, and thus overall business transactions have increased. Yes, there is more stuff to spend money on.

If you've a problem with that, well, us crazy hippies in the sustainability movement have been suggesting alternatives to our economic model for decades now.

Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.
shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#50631: Mar 4th 2013 at 9:29:35 PM

Look at it this way. You're working to feed a number of people. You have a budget of 100 dollars food costs 5 dollars a person and you have 20 people to feed. The first year, you're fine. The next year, you have a budget of 110 dollars, but 23 people to feed and that same food is 6 dollars. You would need 138 dollars to feed them all. Even to feed the original 20 you would need 120. Even though you have a bigger budget, you're going to have to cut services.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#50632: Mar 4th 2013 at 10:16:50 PM

Appeals Court Rules Arizona Day Labor Solicitation Law Is Unconstitutional

Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#50633: Mar 4th 2013 at 10:37:24 PM

@Fighteer: Yeah, but you'd think that the credit rating agencies (the people with degrees in macroeconomics and years of experience in charting them) would know better than the Congresscritters and the pundits. Guess not.

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#50634: Mar 4th 2013 at 10:40:06 PM

What was the part specifically about the solicitation? I remember the whole "checking the papers of drivers they suspect are illegals" thing, but not the part about day laborers. Does this mean that they're not going to punish people for waiting around for day labor offers?

RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#50635: Mar 4th 2013 at 11:14:08 PM

An odd thought just occurred to me:

Currently in the United States, a few states recognize gay marriage, while most states and the federal government do not. However, as far as I'm aware, polygamy is universally illegal in the U.S. So what happens if, in a state that allows gay marriage, Bob marries Alan, then later, in a state that doesn't recognize gay marriage, Bob marries Alice without divorcing Alan first?

Would that count as polygamy? While Bob's married to two people, the state he got the second marriage in doesn't acknoweledge his first marriage as being a real marriage. So would he be safe from polygamy charges as long as he doesn't go back to a state that recognizes gay marriage, or could he be extradited over something like that?

This is where my mind goes at one in the morning. tongue

edited 4th Mar '13 11:31:19 PM by RavenWilder

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#50636: Mar 4th 2013 at 11:21:01 PM

Not recognizing the marriage just means that you don't get all the tax breaks and so on. You'd still have to sign divorce papers, and for legal purposes the husband could sue the bigamist. The fact that they got legally married in a place where that's legal would most likely take precedence as far as the law goes. I think that's how it would go, anyway.

edited 4th Mar '13 11:22:41 PM by AceofSpades

Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#50637: Mar 5th 2013 at 12:52:09 AM

@Raven: I think (IANAL of course) he'd be safe under the state's bigamy laws, but polygamy laws may apply depending on the exact wording of the state's polygamy statute.

Legally speaking, bigamy (normally a misdemeanor) is having multiple spouses, while polygamy (felony) is having multiple spouses "in purported exercise of a plural marriage." Essentially, the latter means that you're not only in a polygamous relationship, but that you're "righteously flaunting it."

edited 5th Mar '13 12:52:35 AM by Ramidel

DevilTakeMe Coin Operator from Wild Wasteland Since: Jan, 2010
Coin Operator
#50638: Mar 5th 2013 at 3:17:49 AM

[up] Meaning, the spouses of the bigamist do not know their partner is married to someone else. Polygamy occurs when the spouses know, and approve or accept, that their partner is married to others.

Glove and Boots is good for Blog!
deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#50639: Mar 5th 2013 at 3:31:04 AM

Actually, the difference is more like bigamy is marrying after one has broken up with one's spouse, but before divorcing, and polygamy is marrying without breaking up with one's spouse.

Both of which I object to being illegal, as long as it is consensual with all involved.

edited 5th Mar '13 3:31:43 AM by deathpigeon

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#50640: Mar 5th 2013 at 7:55:51 AM

Senator Sherrod Brown (D-OH) blasts GOP proposals to raise Medicare age

Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#50642: Mar 5th 2013 at 10:41:19 AM

[up]

well good. HIV only happens to gay people and druggies anyhow, and they deserve to die.

</teapartylogic>

BestOf FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC! from Finland Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC!
#50643: Mar 5th 2013 at 11:00:24 AM

Anyone seen this?

(Sorry for the thread hop.)

Quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur.
terlwyth Since: Oct, 2010
#50644: Mar 5th 2013 at 11:27:05 AM

I knew it looked like that along time ago,...what I didn't know is how much the 1% take in in comparison to even those just next to them.

Achaemenid HGW XX/7 from Ruschestraße 103, Haus 1 Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
HGW XX/7
#50645: Mar 5th 2013 at 11:28:54 AM

Here's an interesting factoid I read in FP today: Proportionately, there are more female members in Afghanistan's legislature than America's. Depressing in many respects, rather uplifting in others.

Schild und Schwert der Partei
Tangent128 from Virginia Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
#50646: Mar 5th 2013 at 12:00:00 PM

(where'd you get that video, Best Of? A friend just linked that same one.)

Do you highlight everything looking for secret messages?
carbon-mantis Collector Of Fine Oddities from Trumpland Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Married to my murderer
Collector Of Fine Oddities
#50647: Mar 5th 2013 at 12:03:53 PM

Could be wrong, but I think it was from The Nation

edit-, or not, they may have just been one of the many sites hosting it.

edited 5th Mar '13 12:05:19 PM by carbon-mantis

BestOf FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC! from Finland Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC!
#50648: Mar 5th 2013 at 1:42:26 PM

I saw it in PZ Myers' blog Pharyngula.

Quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur.
RadicalTaoist scratching at .8, just hopin' from the #GUniverse Since: Jan, 2001
Ekuran Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#50650: Mar 5th 2013 at 2:36:48 PM

Hugo Chavez is dead.

Edit: And we already have a thread for this, so I guess this post is kind of redundant. Sorry about that.

edited 5th Mar '13 2:40:10 PM by Ekuran


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