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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#50501: Mar 3rd 2013 at 6:46:46 AM

... This is Bad for everyone in the US in particular and the world economy in general, with a Capital and boldfaced "B". The Tea Party needs a reality check, pronto.

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
V
#50502: Mar 3rd 2013 at 6:51:07 AM

Bad news for you, Marc. One less US Carrier in the Persian Gulf.

I can't say it helps the British, either — I can only imagine one of the RAF's hard-worked C-17s needing urgent repair work and not being able to get it...

edited 3rd Mar '13 6:52:52 AM by Greenmantle

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Achaemenid HGW XX/7 from Ruschestraße 103, Haus 1 Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
HGW XX/7
#50503: Mar 3rd 2013 at 7:16:27 AM

[up]

We can make do and mend, though, like we have always done.

Schild und Schwert der Partei
Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#50504: Mar 3rd 2013 at 7:24:32 AM

So the Republican's precious military is on the receiving end of this. The sequester is officially backfiring majorly on them.

EDIT: I just want to clarify the 'precious military' bit. I meant that the Republicans love it a little too much, not that it isn't important. A friend of mine said that people could read this badly.

edited 3rd Mar '13 7:35:19 AM by Zendervai

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#50505: Mar 3rd 2013 at 7:34:07 AM

Thank God that the GOP is going to directly feel the pain of this one.

As for Congressional salaries, cutting them is pointless. It's only a hardship for the ones who aren't already wealthy, which usually includes the more populist candidates. Cutting their paycheck only hurts the people we want to be in Congress.

edited 3rd Mar '13 7:34:27 AM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
tricksterson Never Trust from Behind you with an icepick Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Never Trust
#50506: Mar 3rd 2013 at 7:53:56 AM

[up][up]I figure the military cuts are the only reason the Republicans think this is a bad idea.

Trump delenda est
Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#50507: Mar 3rd 2013 at 8:02:45 AM

pretty much. otherwise it would have been solely cuts that were bad for the economy, didnt hurt republican interests, and they could safely blame the whole mess on democrats and clal it a day

Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
V
#50508: Mar 3rd 2013 at 8:29:26 AM

And more then that, the cuts have been done in the most Pig-Headed way possible — 9% from all programs, regardless of whether it can actually be cut?

Face Palm.

If you going to cut, at least do it properly.

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Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#50509: Mar 3rd 2013 at 8:32:34 AM

[up]

the entire point was to be a sword of damocles to force the supercommittee to agree. Unsurprisingly, they appinted tea party darlings to the committee and nothing got done

Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
V
#50510: Mar 3rd 2013 at 8:36:20 AM

Ah well, they all made their own bed, so they've got to sleep in it.

Keep Rolling On
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#50511: Mar 3rd 2013 at 8:44:07 AM

[up]Yeah but they're trying to blame Obama for this. I really hope it doesn't hurt the Democrats' chances in 2014. We need to get these clowns out of office and give Obama a congress that will work with him.

edited 3rd Mar '13 8:44:18 AM by Kostya

tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#50512: Mar 3rd 2013 at 8:46:07 AM

[up][up] But the entire problem is that all of America has to sleep in that bed.

@ Congress' paychecks: Doesn't the 27th Amendment prevent Congress from touching it's own current paychecks? I was reading a couple of articles where it might've been a problem during the whole budget debates back in January.

edited 3rd Mar '13 8:47:47 AM by tclittle

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PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#50513: Mar 3rd 2013 at 8:54:01 AM

With regards to the Republicans and spending cuts to the military, this was an interesting comment from http://tinyurl.com/bt5tuzd.

That the Tea Party is driving Republicans in office to no longer even care about their favorite darling the military, Military, they just want to slash and burn until there is no federal government, the military be damned.

:|a That could be a huge problem if true.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#50514: Mar 3rd 2013 at 8:58:35 AM

My response will always be that they should move to Somalia if they don't want to deal with a government.

Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#50515: Mar 3rd 2013 at 9:06:16 AM

[up][up]

thats mostly because the Tea Party is basically nothing but crazed ideologues who prefer dream scenarios right out of Ayn Rand novels to reality.

Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#50516: Mar 3rd 2013 at 9:07:55 AM

That article said that if nothing happens, the government will shut down this month. Is that true?

[up][up][up] That sounds utterly horrifying. There's an extremely short step, if one at all, from doing that to flat out destroying the US. I know people have differing opinions on America, but no one really actually wants the States to collapse. That would utterly destroy the global economy. Including America's enemies and rivals.

edited 3rd Mar '13 9:09:43 AM by Zendervai

Achaemenid HGW XX/7 from Ruschestraße 103, Haus 1 Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
HGW XX/7
#50518: Mar 3rd 2013 at 9:56:12 AM

Boehner really is a lying bastard, isn't he.

Schild und Schwert der Partei
Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#50519: Mar 3rd 2013 at 10:07:29 AM

[up][up] When I said it was horrifying, I meant 'cut, cut, cut till there isn't anything left.'.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#50520: Mar 3rd 2013 at 10:07:40 AM

I thought Romney didn't want to be president. Suddenly the entitlement theory is looking more likely.

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#50522: Mar 3rd 2013 at 10:24:39 AM

[up] So essentially, this is going to be like the internet blackout over SOPA, except closer to Washington.

I expect Congress to have something together by the end of the month. Optimistically.

Worst case, at the beginning of the next Congress.

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#50523: Mar 3rd 2013 at 11:19:25 AM

Senators McCain, Graham 'hell-bent' on getting Benghazi answers before Brennan vote

Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
Enkufka Wandering Student ಠ_ಠ from Bay of White fish Since: Dec, 2009
Wandering Student ಠ_ಠ
#50524: Mar 3rd 2013 at 11:27:31 AM

What pig-headed idiots. There already are answers. And furthermore, why exactly didn't you ask this the last half dozen times an embassy has been attacked?

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Lost in Space
#50525: Mar 3rd 2013 at 11:31:27 AM

Because they couldn't use them to scapegoat Democrats to cover up an obstructive legislative agenda, of course!

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"

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