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RadicalTaoist scratching at .8, just hopin' from the #GUniverse Since: Jan, 2001
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#50276: Feb 25th 2013 at 7:46:57 PM

To clarify on the previous link:

White House releases state-by-state reports fleshing out the expected damage from the sequester. Examples of newspapers in Kansas and Ohio responding.

If this is a ploy to take the local news away from Republican interests, and it works...holy shit. Welcome back supermajority across the board in 2014.

Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.
AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#50277: Feb 25th 2013 at 7:50:52 PM

The problem I'm seeing here is I don't know if people actually care about TEACHERS losing their jobs anymore. I realize that's a bit cynical, but teachers don't have much in the way of good societal capital right now.

More optimistically, it's good to see signs of the administration putting facts out there where everyone can see them. They seriously need to do that more overall, in order to prevent people from voting ignorantly. Also I would like to see the Republican lie machine taken down by a steady influx of actual facts from news sources.

Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#50278: Feb 25th 2013 at 7:53:24 PM

I've found the best way to shut down people who complain about teachers being entitled and paid too much is simply saying: "So you think you could handle kids for eight hours a day, trying to teach them things that many won't want to learn? You want to deal with your own kids all the time?"

Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#50280: Feb 25th 2013 at 9:15:08 PM

@Radical: Can-kicking forever isn't inherently a bad thing. In this case, I think it'd be actually beneficial to keep the can running ahead of the boot, because the Republicans are the ones who'll keep taking the heat for it, which will help weaken Republicans in swing seats and bolster endangered Democrats (such as Begich from Alaska). Eventually, the pendulum will end up in Democratic hands.

Ultrayellow Unchanging Avatar. Since: Dec, 2010
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#50281: Feb 25th 2013 at 10:24:21 PM

@Menendez: Good Lord, guys. Hold Democrats to the same standards as Republicans, please. I see nothing here but a lying politician trying to save his skin and Senate seat.

Except for 4/1/2011. That day lingers in my memory like...metaphor here...I should go.
RadicalTaoist scratching at .8, just hopin' from the #GUniverse Since: Jan, 2001
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#50282: Feb 25th 2013 at 10:30:50 PM

As a Dominican I'm surprised hiring hookers and a few kickbacks is the worst they can dig up about him. But I won't be sad to see him go. Y'see, when we get pissed at Republicans picking up hookers, it's usually because they go around pushing sexually repressive policy, and when we get pissed at Republican cronyism, it's because it happens on the scale of, oh, Scott Walker.

Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.
deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#50283: Feb 25th 2013 at 10:49:09 PM

...How we're we not holding the Dems to the same standard of Reps? I mean, I'm honestly more upset about him invoking Dr. King than of what he had done, but I don't get upset when Republicans hire hookers, either. I just mostly laugh that people who often claim to be devout Christians who are trying to legislate that sort of belief are doing stuff they would call immoral and probably outlaw if they could.

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#50284: Feb 25th 2013 at 10:59:30 PM

I agree. I don't care if you hire hookers, have affairs, are gay, etc. I just care if you're a hypocrite on the subject. I'm holding democrats and republicans to the same standard. It's just not a standard that paints this guy as anything more than a meh.

edited 25th Feb '13 11:00:19 PM by shimaspawn

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
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#50285: Feb 25th 2013 at 11:16:15 PM

As a Dominican I'm surprised hiring hookers and a few kickbacks is the worst they can dig up about him.

Well the Hookers were underage.

Senator Mark Warner (D-VA) blasts sequestration as ‘stupid’

edited 25th Feb '13 11:20:53 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#50286: Feb 25th 2013 at 11:16:38 PM

The use of Dr. King paints him as worse than meh in my books.

Well the Hookers were underage.

Fuck him. I hope he never gets elected again.

edited 25th Feb '13 11:19:40 PM by deathpigeon

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#50287: Feb 25th 2013 at 11:18:37 PM

[up][up] I didn't see anything about that in the article linked.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
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#50288: Feb 25th 2013 at 11:23:35 PM

The bit about the FBI probe and underage hookers is in the linked article.

Meh.

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DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
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#50289: Feb 25th 2013 at 11:23:45 PM

[up][up]

Here's more information

Justice Sonia Sotomayor slams Texas prosecutor for racial remark

edited 25th Feb '13 11:38:42 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#50290: Feb 25th 2013 at 11:40:42 PM

"Meh" is about right. He should certainly be prosecuted (preferably in the Dominican Republic, on general principles). Beyond that, I really CBA to care about a sex scandal.

Sledgesaul Since: Oct, 2011
RadicalTaoist scratching at .8, just hopin' from the #GUniverse Since: Jan, 2001
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#50293: Feb 26th 2013 at 7:29:32 AM

Well the Hookers were underage.
Fuck him. I hope he never gets elected again.
And that's all I have to say about that.
He should certainly be prosecuted (preferably in the Dominican Republic, on general principles).
Eh, if he has money and connections there, I don't know that he'll face what he deserves. But then again, he has money and connections here.

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#50294: Feb 26th 2013 at 9:55:28 AM

A person who commits a crime should be prosecuted for that crime, whether a member of Congress or not. As for the moral implications, it is almost always more fun when Republican congresspersons who argue for morality legislation are the ones caught with their dicks in the wrong cookie jar (to mix a metaphor). Pointing out hypocrisy does not make one a hypocrite.

However, it would be hypocritical if this guy committed an actual felony and Democrats refused to acknowledge the severity of the problem. If he was indeed having sex with underage prostitutes, then he needs to be in jail, not Congress.

If, on the other hand, he already served his time, it's up to the voters to make up their minds if they want to keep him as their representative.

edited 26th Feb '13 9:56:14 AM by Fighteer

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#50295: Feb 26th 2013 at 10:30:22 AM

I have to agree with Fighteer here. It's up to the courts to figure out the severity of his crime. (i.e. Did it happen or is it heresay? Did he know she was underage when it happened? etc.) Do I think it shows good judgement in a representative? No. Do I think he should be in jail if he did it knowingly? Yes, if he hasn't served his punishment already.

Honestly, I live in Illinois. We're used to politicians of every ilk winding up in jail.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#50296: Feb 26th 2013 at 11:03:53 AM

So... does anyone have any response to Chihuahua's post? Because I don't.

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#50297: Feb 26th 2013 at 11:08:21 AM

Chihuahua's post fails to take into account things like, inflation, and rising costs on things we can't control and can't slash cutting into the money that normally goes around. There are detailed lists of what's being cut for this and how much it's being cut by. The article misses the point that the things that are automatically knocked off by things like this are the things that long term hurt those who can least afford it.

It doesn't show the rise in the cost of heathcare for a rapidly ageing population and the fact our infrastructure is falling apart but these cuts mean we can't cover that. It just looks at the budget from this year and compares it to last year. It's disingenuous to say the least.

edited 26th Feb '13 11:10:22 AM by shimaspawn

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
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#50298: Feb 26th 2013 at 11:08:43 AM

[up][up]I do. They insist on treating budget numbers as absolute, not relative, when discussing phenomena that are relative to GDP. By doing so, they prove themselves to be unrepentant hacks and ideologues.

edited 26th Feb '13 11:08:50 AM by Fighteer

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NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#50300: Feb 26th 2013 at 3:04:24 PM

re: the F-35, I realize I'm a bit late to the conversation, but the issue with them is overblown and the article that was linked in regards to it is terrible.

I had a full-on rant about it written up, but I decided against posting it since it went into minutiae that I doubt most people care about. Suffice to say: calling the entire design a failure because they found a problem in one unit of a pre-operational aircraft is premature, to say the least. If it turns out to be a widespread problem, then that's more of an issue, but at the moment it annoys the hell out of me to see people screaming bloody murder about it.

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