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Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#49951: Feb 18th 2013 at 2:24:43 PM

I opposed the Iraq war because if was none of our damn business what was going on in Iraq. That the casus belli was, as stated above, a transparent lie also rather helped with that decision.

Do you know how underfunded NOAA already was? I seem to recall the head of NOAA saying something to the effect of that if they had NASA's (rather paltry) budget, they could afford to map the entire ocean floor in a decade. Trying to fund ANYTHING by taking the money from NOAA is like squeezing blood from a rock.

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#49952: Feb 18th 2013 at 2:36:22 PM

WE'RE GONNA PARTY LIKE IT'S THREAD 1999!

27 percent OK on U.S. direction

And this an uptick in satisfaction.

edited 18th Feb '13 2:37:12 PM by DeviantBraeburn

Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#49953: Feb 18th 2013 at 2:47:36 PM

And defunding NOAA will cause massive easily preventable loss of life and property. Adding cops in schools may or may not prevent gun violence in one location and won't do a shit about it as a whole.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Belian In honor of my 50lb pup from 42 Since: Jan, 2001
In honor of my 50lb pup
#49954: Feb 18th 2013 at 2:48:19 PM

Going by your description, I have to say that I agree that lenders have to have flexability. Trying to determine the exact amount that any given person has to put down to own a given house must be a complicated process and trying to make a formual that covers all the bases would be difficult to say the least.

Though I also belive that there are certain minimum amounts that can be agreed on. Like, a person has to put down at least XX% of the value of the house.

Yu hav nat sein bod speeling unntil know. (cacke four undersandig tis)the cake is a lie!
DevilTakeMe Coin Operator from Wild Wasteland Since: Jan, 2010
Coin Operator
#49955: Feb 18th 2013 at 3:29:46 PM

[up][up] The thing with the NOAA is that they're not using the money that the GOP is looking to put to the Cops in Schools fund.

It's along the same issues that put the Postal Service into the problems that they're facing now.

As soon as there is a surplus or an unspent amount in one program, politicians are frothing at the mouth to divert the money that could go to a project somewhere else.

edited 18th Feb '13 3:30:54 PM by DevilTakeMe

Glove and Boots is good for Blog!
Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#49956: Feb 18th 2013 at 3:36:57 PM

I understand that it's much the same in the corporate world.

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#49957: Feb 18th 2013 at 3:41:15 PM

After 148 years, Mississippi finally ratifies 13th Amendment, which banned slavery

I'm sure the slaves are overjoyed.

edited 18th Feb '13 3:44:24 PM by DeviantBraeburn

Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#49958: Feb 18th 2013 at 3:45:56 PM

[up]Wow... and people raise a stink when I mislay my paperwork down the back of the filing cabinet for a week or two... tongue

tricksterson Never Trust from Behind you with an icepick Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Never Trust
#49959: Feb 18th 2013 at 3:47:26 PM

Why did we want the South back again?

Trump delenda est
DrTentacles Cephalopod Lothario from Land of the Deep Ones Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Cephalopod Lothario
#49960: Feb 18th 2013 at 4:01:12 PM

Well, there goes my plan of trying to use their lack of ratification for my Oompa-Loompa labor farm/

deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#49961: Feb 18th 2013 at 4:04:39 PM

There, there. I'm not sure Oompa-Loompas would count as people under the law. It might still be ok.

RadicalTaoist scratching at .8, just hopin' from the #GUniverse Since: Jan, 2001
scratching at .8, just hopin'
#49962: Feb 18th 2013 at 4:16:15 PM

The great state of Mississippi is happy to let you force your shorter funny-coloured people to work demeaning jobs for less than minimal pay.

Oh wait, we're not talking about Mexican migrant labour? Never mind.

Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.
Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#49963: Feb 18th 2013 at 5:14:50 PM

The state government officially ratified it back then, they just never actually told the federal government.

And concerning the NOAA thing, yes, the shootings were bad, but far more damage was done to New York City, and a ton of damage is done every year to places that tend to get hit by natural disasters. I'd think funding the group that can save tons of lives, including the lives of the politicians is completely worth it. Just slash the military budget for their bizarre and insane experiments and you have enough for the NOAA and NASA to work with.

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#49964: Feb 18th 2013 at 5:20:41 PM

Arkansas Senate passes bill to ban abortions after 20 weeks

Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
TheStarshipMaxima NCC - 1701 Since: Jun, 2009
NCC - 1701
#49965: Feb 18th 2013 at 5:31:56 PM

Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron.

Dwight D. Eisenhower, From a speech before the American Society of Newspaper Editors, April 16, 1953 34th president of US 1953-1961 (1890 - 1969)

What I wouldn't give to have those guys back.

re: Mississippi ratifies the 13th Amendment a hundred years later - Alright! Next up the Mississippi Board of Education is going to admit the Earth is round.

It was an honor
shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#49966: Feb 18th 2013 at 5:32:00 PM

@ Zendervai: If by back then you mean 1995, then yes, they didn't send it in. But they still waited 131 years to even do that.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#49967: Feb 18th 2013 at 5:33:18 PM

Oh, I didn't know that. That's actually worse, as it wasn't just a mishap with the paperwork.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#49968: Feb 18th 2013 at 5:33:42 PM

So, the GOP wants to put police in schools by taking money away from NOAA. Are they still going for that "cartoonishly evil" award?

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#49969: Feb 18th 2013 at 5:48:51 PM

What do you have to be on to consider school shootings more important than natural disasters? They're more common than I'd like but they don't cause billions of dollars in property damage alongside the resulting loss of life.

DevilTakeMe Coin Operator from Wild Wasteland Since: Jan, 2010
Coin Operator
#49970: Feb 18th 2013 at 6:08:44 PM

Unless the NOAA does something with that money, people are going to cut it and spend it somewhere else. No such thing as "profit" or "surplus" here.

What do you have to do to justify having extra cash, when it could be put to use somewhere else?

They're not cutting the NOAA, they're cutting the surplus the NOAA has.

edited 18th Feb '13 6:10:41 PM by DevilTakeMe

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DrunkGirlfriend from Castle Geekhaven Since: Jan, 2011
#49971: Feb 18th 2013 at 6:18:01 PM

[up] Do they have a surplus? I thought that they just had a bunch of budget cuts.

"I don't know how I do it. I'm like the Mr. Bean of sex." -Drunkscriblerian
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#49972: Feb 18th 2013 at 6:22:38 PM

Unless the NOAA does something with that money, people are going to cut it and spend it somewhere else. No such thing as "profit" or "surplus" here.

And this is why you have a lot of government waste. Because if a department doesn’t spend every penny, if it doesn’t use up every last bit of cash it's given, then it loses it. It doesn’t just lose it for the year that they came in under budget, but it loses it for all future years. Let's assume you're right and this is NOAA's surplus, it's effectively being punished for coming in under budget. For not wasting government money it's having its funding cut, how is that right?

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#49973: Feb 18th 2013 at 6:26:06 PM

[up][up]

Maybe the budget cuts created a surplus?

EDIT: Considering the upcoming sequester I don't think there gonna have a surplus for much longer.

edited 18th Feb '13 6:28:50 PM by DeviantBraeburn

Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#49974: Feb 18th 2013 at 6:26:13 PM

It's why some departments and businesses spend part of their budgets on the weirdest things. Actually, that might be the reason behind the military's experiments.

[up] If that's the case, the budget transfer is just mean.

edited 18th Feb '13 6:30:54 PM by Zendervai

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#49975: Feb 18th 2013 at 6:34:45 PM

Does NOAA have a surplus? Some departments do but I thought they had a lot of things they wanted to do but not enough money to do them. That's not a surplus, that's a deficit.


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