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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#49926: Feb 18th 2013 at 10:36:47 AM

Why not kill sales tax and raise income tax? Because that hurts the rich and there are politicians who would happily lie, cheat, steal, and oppress the innocent if it means that doesn't happen.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#49927: Feb 18th 2013 at 10:36:55 AM

[up] This, pretty much.

No way in hell the guys with a;ll the money would ever allow money to go back towards the poor and the small business.

small businesses might one day become big businesses with a neat idea or two that could kill the large business. Same reason why oil companies tend to buy up patents for green tech and sit on it.

edited 18th Feb '13 10:38:19 AM by Midgetsnowman

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#49928: Feb 18th 2013 at 10:37:58 AM

I backed the Iraq war because Saddam Hussein was a big scary dictator who gassed his people and I thought he needed to die. I was younger at the time and had read too much Tom Clancy. Even then, though, I didn't think that the administration was selling it honestly: (a) as a WMD hunt, (b) as a quick in-and-out, instill democracy and we're done, yay.

I knew damn well that we were doing it partly as a matter of regional "stability", partly to give Bush something to make him look good to voters, and partly over oil rights; and that it would be a quick and dirty ground war followed by a protracted insurgency.

edited 18th Feb '13 10:39:27 AM by Fighteer

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#49929: Feb 18th 2013 at 10:49:05 AM

Same reason why oil companies tend to buy up patents for green tech and sit on it.

Midget, please tell me I'm reading this wrong. Tell me this is just some crazy left-wing theory.

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Belian In honor of my 50lb pup from 42 Since: Jan, 2001
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#49930: Feb 18th 2013 at 11:30:52 AM

Well...

"Chevron controls the worldwide patent rights for NIMH batteries used in the RAV4-EV, and won't allow their use in EVs."

Not recent or from a normal news sorce, but the best I could find with some breaf searching.

The Other Wiki's page on the topic

edited 18th Feb '13 11:32:44 AM by Belian

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Karkadinn Karkadinn from New Orleans, Louisiana Since: Jul, 2009
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#49931: Feb 18th 2013 at 11:32:38 AM

What's that, you say? Our patent system is completely broken and actually stifles innovation in the marketplace instead of rewarding it? This is SHOCKING news.

Furthermore, I think Guantanamo must be destroyed.
shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#49932: Feb 18th 2013 at 11:38:15 AM

Yep, patents are another thing that kill small businesses. Start to get moderately successful and someone will sue you out of existence even if their claims won't hold up in court. The way these cases drag on, a small business can't handle the legal fees even if they don't actually have anything on you.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#49933: Feb 18th 2013 at 11:39:42 AM

@Iraq War: I opposed it purely because, A, the grounds Bush had been using for a casus belli were a transparent lie and there was absolutely no evidence for the WM Ds, and B, in 2003 I was still a dyed-in-the-wool libertarian (not really big-L, as I had no tolerance for either corporate welfare or social conservatives) and my idea of foreign policy was "not America's problem."

edited 18th Feb '13 11:39:56 AM by Ramidel

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#49934: Feb 18th 2013 at 11:49:36 AM

And people say God is judging America because gays can get married, but not because people will literally destroy anything that stops them from wrecking the only place we have to live in the name of the almighty dollar?

God help us all.

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#49935: Feb 18th 2013 at 11:53:05 AM

And people say God is judging America because gays can get married, but not because people will literally destroy anything that stops them from wrecking the only place we have to live in the name of the almighty dollar?

Somehow, I suspect that includes the "almighty Dollar" itself.

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Achaemenid HGW XX/7 from Ruschestraße 103, Haus 1 Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
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#49937: Feb 18th 2013 at 1:08:37 PM

Former Governor Palin to address CPAC 2013

That'll be good. CPAC is always fun.

GOP lawmakers propose $30 million a year to fund Cops in Schools program.

This is also good, provided the Dems don't let the GOP present or use it as a substitute for other measures.

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#49938: Feb 18th 2013 at 1:10:58 PM

Eh, I see nothing inherently bad about putting police officers in schools, save for the possibility of boring them to death. But it's a bit insulting to propose $30 million (that little, really?) for school cops so we can say we're doing something about shootings while at the same time rejecting aid to states to rehire the millions of teachers, police, and firefighters that have been laid off since 2008.

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DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
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#49939: Feb 18th 2013 at 1:17:28 PM

Mark Sanford addresses scandal in first ad, says no one lives ‘life without mistakes’

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Achaemenid HGW XX/7 from Ruschestraße 103, Haus 1 Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
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#49940: Feb 18th 2013 at 1:19:54 PM

[up][up]

$30 million (that little, really?)

I don't know much about funding, but it seems to me all the cop needs to do is sit on guard in the school, doing his normal job. All it seems to be is reassignment, which needen't be inherently expensive. I stress this seems like a gut reaction, though.

school cops so we can say we're doing something about shootings while at the same time rejecting aid to states to rehire the millions of teachers, police, and firefighters that have been laid off since 2008.

This is also true, though I might assign a nobler motive than "we must be seen to be doing something" to the GOP in this case.

edited 18th Feb '13 1:20:03 PM by Achaemenid

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DevilTakeMe Coin Operator from Wild Wasteland Since: Jan, 2010
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#49941: Feb 18th 2013 at 1:23:07 PM

It's still a divided issue, even among experts. Some say there is no price that's too high, while others would prefer local districts to determine the necessity of having cops or guards in a school at all.

30 million might seem low, but the program already exists, it just hasn't any money for the last 8 years.

It's a start, like so many are fond of saying of other programs. The cost of federally funding putting cops in every school full time is an estimate of between 3.5 billion and 5 billion depending on you who you ask, which may be too much.

edited 18th Feb '13 1:24:01 PM by DevilTakeMe

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#49942: Feb 18th 2013 at 1:28:00 PM

Sitting on guard during his normal job means that a cop isn't doing what they were doing before. As that job they were doing before still needs to be done, someone else needs to be hired to do it. As a result, you need to hire new cops to do the old cop's job. This means it costs money.

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#49943: Feb 18th 2013 at 1:35:37 PM

[up]

Indeed it does, but hiring a cop for a year is fairly cheap in the grand scheme of things.

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#49944: Feb 18th 2013 at 1:38:05 PM

Isn't it funny how the GOP is willing to spend federal money to hire people when it goes along with their ideological conceptions. I guess government can create jobs after all, as long as they are Conservative-Approved (tm).

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#49945: Feb 18th 2013 at 1:52:28 PM

[up][up] A cop, yes. Thousands of cops, not so much, and this would require thousands of cops.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#49946: Feb 18th 2013 at 2:02:03 PM

Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron. Dwight D. Eisenhower, From a speech before the American Society of Newspaper Editors, April 16, 1953 34th president of US 1953-1961 (1890 - 1969)

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#49947: Feb 18th 2013 at 2:04:00 PM

Also look at where they are getting the money from, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, which according to Wikipedia.

NOAA warns of dangerous weather, charts seas and skies, guides the use and protection of ocean and coastal resources, and conducts research to improve understanding and stewardship of the environment.

I think such a program sounds like a good idea, though I'd say it should be paid for differently.

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#49948: Feb 18th 2013 at 2:10:01 PM

It's the program that warns people that things like Sandy and Katrina are coming. It's a public service. It should be government funded.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
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#49949: Feb 18th 2013 at 2:12:43 PM

[up]

Step 1: Defund it and use the money for GOP initiated "Protect our children programm"

Step 2: Wait for next superstorm.

Step 3: Blame Obama for defunding them.

And if it weren#t a joke I'd be totally not surprised.

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