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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
I was actually talking about the "crazy right wing reactionist party" or someone who may have voted/supported it in something. My wish in this topic is that if such a person comes here, he/she is given a chance to openly lay out a view and is given elaborated response, without a negative tone rising. It should be for that person's benefit in understanding a different view, rather than "our self-esteem".
I noticed something here. In TV Tropes most of us are left-leaning in various ways, so we get the sense that someone who disagrees is an outlier. But an opinion given here could sometimes be a minority view with respect to the United States population. I feel that if we don't keep that in mind, we may get a wrong impression.
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It wasn't what he was saying. It was the way he was saying it. We were being calm and respectful, and he kept screaming talking points and ignoring us.
...Then he got really ugly, really obnoxiously fundie christian, and really homophobic. I think Fighteer's view is it's not our job to educate those who want to listen, and that the person was pretty toxic to rational, reasoned debate.
And no idea. I think people just don't understand fiat currency, and get all upset that our money isn't "real." It just doesn't match up with their worldview.
edited 14th Feb '13 3:42:42 PM by DrTentacles
Wasn't there a conservative poster who came in and had their opinion of tge GOP changed without going to explosivly?
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My guess is that people believe that having something material backing a currency is much better than a speculated currency.
edited 14th Feb '13 3:44:11 PM by tclittle
"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."![]()
I know. I sensed it. Still, the conversation tone seemed a bit condescending as it built up.
I don't follow...
edited 14th Feb '13 3:44:17 PM by Trivialis
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Starship? Yeah. That's because he's an awesome guy who's willing to listen and consider facts, and not just reject them out of hand. He can be a bit thick at times, but he tries, and we love him anyway.
I'll admit that I was probably a bit...brusque. And I regret that, because I'd rather have a reasoned debate/try to help someone work past their conditioning than start a fight. (Not that I think it would have worked with this guy anyway.) I've got to work on. I just...tend to have a low opinion of people who skim/read rational arguments, and rebut them with "I'm entitled to an opinion." And give no evidence to support that.
edited 14th Feb '13 3:45:22 PM by DrTentacles
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Even if they don't focus on Keynes, they should at least give all schools a good deal of time in the spotlight. Anything would be better than what we're doing now, which is allowing the republican's brand of bastardized Austrianism run wild. It's not even real austrianism. Most people aren't even aware macroeconomics are a thing, much less that they're different from micro.
edited 14th Feb '13 3:57:54 PM by DrTentacles
Why do people need a basic macroeconomics course? The economy works and all people need to do is believe in the power of money in order for it to continue doing sonote . You can know something works and know how to use it without knowing why it works (comparison: most modern electronics).
Now, I would advocate that a basic general buisness course be manditory. Give people enough knowlage about buisness (economics, statistics, accounting, and management) so that they know what sort of questions to ask the people who do know the "how" and "why".
edited 14th Feb '13 4:19:14 PM by Belian
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edited 14th Feb '13 5:46:45 PM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016Note that I do like the idea of a general buisness course that would touch on economics (micro and macro). I just don't see why a whole course on just economics sould be manditory.
The point of Collages/Universitys is to expand your views and help you figure out what you are interested in then provide a way for you to learn more about those interests. Forcing a full econ class on someone who doesn't care for it seems like a bit much to me.
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BTW 'Clinton' is having sex with a Panda.
edited 14th Feb '13 4:55:53 PM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016I agree with Dr Tentacles's suggestion on "giving schools a coverage". I don't mind having basic macroeconomics based on the mainstream (which is largely neo-Keynesian) and providing more advanced courses having a survey of the different schools, in economic history or alternative-systems courses.
But I'll note that Republicans don't actually follow Austrian economics, except for some libertarian minority.
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...Did they actually claim it was her? She might actually be able to sue them for libel. Probably won't happen, and its blatantly fake, but Clinton is technically a private citizen now. Harder to get away with character assassination in that case.
EDIT: Yeah, its pretty obvious that its fake. Next question: what the fuck were they hoping to accomplish?
edited 14th Feb '13 4:42:29 PM by Rationalinsanity
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Hoping to preemptively tarnish her reputation in case she decides to run for president in 2016?
I think she might have a gambling problem.
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016

"Because they want more answers about Benghazi, apparently."
Or so some Rep was saying.