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Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#49226: Feb 11th 2013 at 12:52:25 PM

I'd say it isnt the catholicism that'll hurt Rubio. Its being latino that will hurt him. Last I checked, at least in my mid missouri, tea party infested neck of the woods, the average teapublican despises the wetbacks who done took der jurbs

edited 11th Feb '13 12:52:41 PM by Midgetsnowman

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#49227: Feb 11th 2013 at 1:59:03 PM

Yeah, they want to deport Latinos, not elect them to the presidency. You thought the Manchurian Candidate conspiracies around Obama was bad? Rubio gets nominated, people will be weeping and asking "when do we get a white president again?" (Nevermind that Rubio is as white as Latinos come. Hay mucha leche en ese cafe.)

I wonder if, by the end, that included Romney himself?
Many have pondered the same thing.

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#49228: Feb 11th 2013 at 2:07:43 PM

I find that article oddly enlightening. It makes a huge amount of sense, and it also goes a long way to explaining why the wealthy in this country are so out of touch.

edited 11th Feb '13 2:07:48 PM by Fighteer

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Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#49229: Feb 11th 2013 at 2:31:37 PM

After all, Romney is almost as Blue Blood as they come in the US. I can also cut it down to two words:

Noblesse oblige

edited 11th Feb '13 2:33:54 PM by Greenmantle

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#49230: Feb 11th 2013 at 2:39:51 PM

That makes a disturbing amount of sense, especially when you consider how shocked he was when he lost.

TheStarshipMaxima NCC - 1701 Since: Jun, 2009
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#49231: Feb 11th 2013 at 2:57:44 PM

You know what's sad, I have a totally different concept of noblesse oblige than what was written in your post Mantle.

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Belian In honor of my 50lb pup from 42 Since: Jan, 2001
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#49232: Feb 11th 2013 at 3:03:41 PM

[up]Actually, same here. I read a webtoon called "noblesse" and have that as a primary refference for the meaning of that word.

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#49233: Feb 11th 2013 at 3:12:35 PM

Noblesse Oblige means "the nobles' obligation" and is the idea that the upper class have an obligation to look out for the well-being of the poor/less fortunate (while being paternalistic and snooty about it- see Downton Abbey). I'd say that Mitt Romney while having the snooty part, was sorely lacking in any sense of obligation.

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TheStarshipMaxima NCC - 1701 Since: Jun, 2009
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#49234: Feb 11th 2013 at 3:17:06 PM

Precisely. All "noblesse"; no "oblige". (thinks) Kinda like the Republican Party in general, huh?

It was an honor
TamH70 Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#49235: Feb 11th 2013 at 3:29:59 PM

Hmm. True. But it could well have applied to the antebellum Democratic Party, neh?

Politics is a wheel that keeps on turning.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#49236: Feb 11th 2013 at 4:11:36 PM

[up][up][up]I believe that his father fit the definition though. George Romney tried pushing for more low income housing and the like, if I'm remembering things right.

I don't think that Christie has a hope of winning the nomination after he dared to call out the House GOP for playing politics with disaster aid. Plus, like Romney, he will be branded as another "North Eastern moderate".

On the other hand he pretty much just won a second term (his handling of Sandy was a huge boost) in the Governor's mansion if he wants it.

edited 11th Feb '13 4:12:07 PM by Rationalinsanity

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chihuahua0 Since: Jul, 2010
#49237: Feb 11th 2013 at 4:38:04 PM

My Dad claims that compared to Presidents like Reagan and Clinton, Obama is not good at dealing with Congressmen.

He cites one case when John Boehner got reelected as House Minority Leader, and no one at the White House had his cell phone number so Obama could give him the expected congratulatory call.

By the way, thoughts on the sequester cuts?

terlwyth Since: Oct, 2010
#49238: Feb 11th 2013 at 4:49:09 PM

I'm gonna have to agree with your father for once chihuahua,...the thing is,Reagan was pretty much the Iron Man from day one and he had a huge Senate on his side until 1986. He made sure the House wouldn't mess with him,...thank heavens Tip O'Niel was able to do anything.

Clinton was just like Obama for the first two years,...but he figured out that GOP was gonna have none of it and finally ascended to the same Iron Machine Reagan was.

Obama has been nothing but compromise,compromise with an even more partisan opposition than either Reagan or Clinton.

As for Boehner getting re-elected,what the hell does that have to with compromise or good Congress relations?

Once again what Obama really amounts to is a two-termed Jimmy Carter.

edited 11th Feb '13 4:50:02 PM by terlwyth

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#49239: Feb 11th 2013 at 6:06:01 PM

You're both insulting Jimmy and giving him too much credit. Dude folded like a lawn chair in the face of some weak-ass manufactured scandals. Obama's been hit with worse and got reelected after achieving more in his first term than Carter did. On the other hand, I doubt Jimmy would have bent over backwards for the GOP like Obama has.

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Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
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#49240: Feb 11th 2013 at 6:33:27 PM

The October Surprise is one of the few things I didn't know about Reagan until John Fugelsang mentioned it on Viewpoint.

Fugelsang made it seem like Watergate ramped Up To Eleven. That true?

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RadicalTaoist scratching at .8, just hopin' from the #GUniverse Since: Jan, 2001
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#49241: Feb 11th 2013 at 6:50:25 PM

Sorry for the sudden jump in topic, but aww shit. You wanna bet the gun debate is going to flare up again?

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Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
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#49242: Feb 11th 2013 at 6:56:18 PM

Not in this thread, please.

Focus, instead, on how the killer of Osama Bin Laden will not receive any healthcare benefits from the military.

edited 11th Feb '13 7:06:20 PM by Serocco

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tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
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#49243: Feb 11th 2013 at 7:12:40 PM

Didn't he quit before required retirement yearage?

edited 11th Feb '13 7:12:53 PM by tclittle

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#49245: Feb 11th 2013 at 7:19:44 PM

@Taoist: I dunno, crap like that happens pretty much all the time. The only reason why the media is even paying attention right now is because of the gun control debate.

[up] [lol]

edited 11th Feb '13 7:20:29 PM by DrunkGirlfriend

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Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
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#49246: Feb 11th 2013 at 7:20:21 PM

Medical and dental care, U.S. citizenship, education benefits, reassignment benefits and primary next of kin qualification are among the benefits still denied to same-sex couples.

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#49247: Feb 11th 2013 at 7:21:27 PM

[up][up] The best part is that not only does he not offer to buy back the domains on the free market, he goes to the U.N. for litigation.

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DrunkGirlfriend from Castle Geekhaven Since: Jan, 2011
#49248: Feb 11th 2013 at 7:26:14 PM

[up] Man, that's hilarious. [lol]

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Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#49249: Feb 11th 2013 at 7:34:52 PM

Also learned that they will not raise the retirement age for Medicare, for the time being.

Social Security still appears on the table.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#49250: Feb 11th 2013 at 8:30:14 PM

So does this mean that Ron Paul is actually a NWO/UN shill? I knew it!

edited 11th Feb '13 8:30:22 PM by Rationalinsanity

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