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Belian In honor of my 50lb pup from 42 Since: Jan, 2001
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#47826: Jan 22nd 2013 at 4:50:18 PM

Whatever you do, don't read the comments on that article.

I WARNED YOU

...anyway. I do like what is proposed in that article: the reporter has reason to expect that he would not really change how it worked, just stop it from being applied in certain cituations. Like stoping it from interfearing with motions to move onto the next piece of buisness Congress needs to tackle.

Filibusters are one way the Minority can have influence the Majority and should not be completely taken away. But I don't mind if they are stopped from interfearing with the buisness Congress is supposed to be handling.

edited 22nd Jan '13 4:52:25 PM by Belian

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DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#47827: Jan 22nd 2013 at 4:52:19 PM

Senator McConnell (R-KY): Obama speech proof 'era of liberalism is back'

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Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#47828: Jan 22nd 2013 at 4:53:28 PM

If by "era of liberalism," they mean Franklin Roosevelt, I wish.

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DrTentacles Cephalopod Lothario from Land of the Deep Ones Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Cephalopod Lothario
#47829: Jan 22nd 2013 at 4:53:34 PM

[up][up] It's not back until FDR rises from the grave. But it's a start.

edited 22nd Jan '13 4:54:18 PM by DrTentacles

Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#47831: Jan 22nd 2013 at 5:12:04 PM

There we go again with Keystone. That's another state that would include it, after Oklahoma and Texas.

Also, good to see Lautenberg is actually doing something about gun control.

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Ultrayellow Unchanging Avatar. Since: Dec, 2010
Unchanging Avatar.
#47832: Jan 22nd 2013 at 5:14:10 PM

Just because you're doing something doesn't mean you're doing something good.

Except for 4/1/2011. That day lingers in my memory like...metaphor here...I should go.
AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#47833: Jan 22nd 2013 at 5:15:23 PM

Most of the resistance to the pipeline is happening in Nebraska. Texas and Oklahoma have been ignored, either the transgressions against people's private property, or simply not airing it at all in any manner. This is Texas though, and Big Oil has a huge grip on the state. UGH.

I still don't see any facts about the pipeline adding as nearly as many jobs as Trans Canada would like us to believe.

Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#47834: Jan 22nd 2013 at 5:19:27 PM

The Pipeline doesn't add many jobs, and if there are, they'll only be temporary. Along with the illegal demolition of civilian property, it's in danger of contaminating the water all around Texas and Oklahoma (noo, OKC!).

More states will face that issue if/when the northern half of the pipeline is approved and constructed.

edited 22nd Jan '13 5:20:41 PM by Serocco

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Ultrayellow Unchanging Avatar. Since: Dec, 2010
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#47836: Jan 22nd 2013 at 5:47:59 PM

As a survivor of torture and consistent opponent of torture as an American policy, I think that he has a right to make a waterboarding joke.

Except for 4/1/2011. That day lingers in my memory like...metaphor here...I should go.
TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#47837: Jan 22nd 2013 at 5:50:09 PM

Actually reading the line, it's really not that bad.

DevilTakeMe Coin Operator from Wild Wasteland Since: Jan, 2010
Coin Operator
#47838: Jan 22nd 2013 at 6:15:02 PM

Lautenberg's measure for magazine ban is kind of idiotic, since it's not going to do anything meaningful. "Doing something doesn't mean it's doing something good" is the right sentiment. Again, it's superficial "feelgood" legislation.

[up][up][up] Eh, it's a joke. Nothing to get your feathers ruffled over.

edited 22nd Jan '13 6:15:33 PM by DevilTakeMe

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Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#47839: Jan 22nd 2013 at 6:27:01 PM

I want some bans on every types of guns used in every known shooting.

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Ultrayellow Unchanging Avatar. Since: Dec, 2010
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#47840: Jan 22nd 2013 at 6:29:19 PM

That'll go over well. You know that's basically all of them, right?

Except for 4/1/2011. That day lingers in my memory like...metaphor here...I should go.
Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#47841: Jan 22nd 2013 at 6:30:40 PM

[up] That's the point.

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Lascoden ... from Missouri, USA Since: Nov, 2012
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#47842: Jan 22nd 2013 at 6:30:57 PM

[up]I think that's their point.

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Ultrayellow Unchanging Avatar. Since: Dec, 2010
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#47843: Jan 22nd 2013 at 6:38:48 PM

Putting aside the constitutional law argument (which you'd lose, by the way), how do you think that would help?

Except for 4/1/2011. That day lingers in my memory like...metaphor here...I should go.
DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#47844: Jan 22nd 2013 at 6:49:50 PM

Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL): Roe vs. Wade was blatant judicial activism

edited 22nd Jan '13 6:50:40 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#47845: Jan 22nd 2013 at 6:50:42 PM

The Second Amendment calls for a "well-regulated militia" in the event of a government crackdown or a revolution. It is not calling for citizens to arm themselves for everyday security - only that a militia should be formed and regulated so it protects the citizenry in a revolution or invasion.

Since the shooters murder fellow citizens, I suggest banning the types of guns used in those shootings. Arrest and incarcerate the buyers, dealers and makers of those same guns post-massacre.

[up] And passing anti-abortion laws in spite of Roe v. Wade isn't political activism, Rubio, which you're ultimately implying the same for judicial activism?

edited 22nd Jan '13 7:14:32 PM by Serocco

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Ultrayellow Unchanging Avatar. Since: Dec, 2010
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#47846: Jan 22nd 2013 at 6:53:01 PM

Yeah...he actually has a good argument regarding judicial activism.

But of course, being a Tea Party boy, he ditched the argument for a useless rhetoric-filled diatribe about the ethics of abortion .

@Serocco: "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" seems pretty unambiguous to me.

edited 22nd Jan '13 6:55:53 PM by Ultrayellow

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Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#47847: Jan 22nd 2013 at 7:02:17 PM

It should be infringed if it causes murder on such a grand scale as it already has.

edited 22nd Jan '13 7:02:25 PM by Serocco

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TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#47848: Jan 22nd 2013 at 7:10:11 PM

Serocco, Judicial Activism is a "thing." Know what it means. I mean, I agree that Rubio is talking out of his ass, but that retort is kind of ignorant.

Judicial activism is "legislating from the bench." That is, ruling in a certain way that a law is unconstitutional not because it is by a reasonable interpretation of the constitutional, but because the ruling fulfills some kind of goal.

Whereas legislators passing anti-abortion laws is activism, but that's what legislators are supposed to do: pass legislation. Of course, you can argue against punitive regulation (that is, regulations intended to punish), and there's good call to argue against those punitive regulations.

Ultrayellow Unchanging Avatar. Since: Dec, 2010
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#47849: Jan 22nd 2013 at 7:16:57 PM

@Serocco: So then you admit that I was right and you'd lose in a court of constitutional law.

Now that we've shelved that point, what do you expect a ban on guns to accomplish?

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AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#47850: Jan 22nd 2013 at 7:25:20 PM

At this point a total ban on guns would serve no purpose but to legitimize the NRA's paranoid ranting. And I'd rather not let them gain credibility after all the bullshit they've spouted. Bans on assault rifles and high capacity magazines make a certain amount of sense. Banning everything does not. Not to mention that arresting MANUFACTURERS AND SALESMEN FOR CRIMES THEY DIDN'T COMMIT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND ALSO AN ASSHOLE THING TO DO. Keep in mind; we are not allowed to arrest people retroactively for committing an act that wasn't a crime at the time they were doing it. Plus, those people were trying to earn a living and feed their families.

Not to mention the prisons are already filled to the brim for bullshit reasons, and you just mentioned another bullshit reason. We DO NOT need to be adding to the prison population.

And going through and finding all these now illegal guns is going to be prohibitively expensive in terms of time and money.


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