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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Rick Perry's Solution To Gun Violence: 'Pray For Our Children'
@Perry:
Well, prayer is fine. I'm sure Obama supports that too. I wouldn't call it that solution precludes gun regulations, though.
Analyzing that blog post in case people dogpile it wholesale:
I don't think this debate's really a place to bring in church-state issue on a whim. Though I would note that the separation also protects the church in some sense.
Perry is correct that no law could completely eliminate risks, but I don't think it's wrong to take better measures.
I don't agree with his mentality that he can just eliminate evil like it was that easy.
I would say the right to self-defense is a natural right. Still, checking influences and not guns doesn't add up, particularly when the "influence" part is addressed in the form of background checks.
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to quote one of the mothers:
Scott Walker pledges tax cut, regulatory reform in 'state of state' speech
Nebraska governor Dave Heineman proposes ending state income, corporate taxes
Bobby Jindal's New Tax Plan Would Be a Huge Blow to Louisiana's Poorest Residents
edited 16th Jan '13 10:02:46 PM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016Hey, Rush, no one thinks your funny.
Stop trying to think that we do.
He's trying to paint it as "Obama's hiding behind kids to pass his bills." It's when he starts mocking the kids that he goes over the end.
edited 17th Jan '13 12:41:10 AM by Serocco
In RWBY, every girl is Best Girl.It's Freedom Works that maintains his paycheck. That's a conservative agency owned by the Koch brothers. It's one of the only reasons he still has a show.
In many ways, Rush is a heel. He's paid to be hells' advocate. He's paid to be the guy that barely anyone likes.
edited 17th Jan '13 12:53:18 AM by Serocco
In RWBY, every girl is Best Girl.
the sad thing, Devil, is in some ways, people still pay attention to him because theres a very loud, vocal minority who agrees with every single hateful thing he's ever said.
You know. The tea Party.
also in hilarious self-parody news, Erich Pratt of Gun Owners of America has suggested that Reagan only supported gun control laws after he went senile in his old age.
(nevermind he always supported gun control throughout most of his political career, or that John Hinckley tried to shoot the hell out of him.)
edited 17th Jan '13 4:38:33 AM by Midgetsnowman
Which presidents are considered to be good ones again? I remember that Lincoln and Kennedy are liked because they got assassinated before public got fed up with them(I'm saying that because I've heard some bad things about Kennedy and I've heard some comments on Lincoln not really being that righteous from American relative that I'm not sure if they were biased or not, but even then Lincoln probably would have gotten bad rep eventually because dying as "martyr" is special kind of thing when it comes to people) and that Nixon is considered to be bad because of some scandal I never heard details about and that Bush seems to be hated outside of USA and ridiculed in but still got elected twice. So which ones were good and bad ones again?
I'll debunk everything you just said.
Lincoln was a war-time president who suspended habeus corpus (the right for a trial). At the same time, he's credited with laying the foundations of the end of slavery - emancipation, but only to the South, because the North was still ardently pro-slavery.
Nixon's Watergate scandal involved bugging offices of his political opponents, ala the Democratic Party. That was unprecedented corruption for the time. Also had an obsession with Jews; he barred Jewish legislators and politicians from discussing policy with him. On the other hand, Nixon is the guy that created the Environmental Protection Agency, who would eventually remove all lead in gas pumps and paint brushes (lead was the cause for the high rates of crime).
Bush signed laws that codified torture, warrantless surveillance and deregulated the banks, which partly caused the recession.
Kennedy's New Frontier program expanded unemployment benefits, increased Social Security benefits, increased the minimum wage and aid to economically distressed areas, among other things that helped domestically. As far as foreign affairs go, we almost went into a war with the Soviets over the Cuban Missile Crisis. That was averted pretty much at the last second, because he allowed the Soviet-backed Castro goons to crack down on a bunch of refugees that were waiting for American helicopters to take them away.
edited 17th Jan '13 6:02:26 AM by Sledgesaul
There are at least two ways to answer that:
- "good" from a public opinion stand-point?
- "Good" from a historical one?
- sub-questions include from political or economic stand points.
I'm not one to actually answer the question (I can not remember names worth anything and would get them all mixed up), but Bill Clinton did a number of good things for the country, including reducing the deficit while in office. Too bad all anyone remembers is the scandal.
Yu hav nat sein bod speeling unntil know. (cacke four undersandig tis)the cake is a lie!^^Umm, how was that debunking what I just said?
What you said about Lincoln is exactly what my relative complained about at Liberty Bell. According to him Lincoln only freed southern slaves and gave freedom to north's slaves only to get them help fighting south. But he seems to be generally cited as being advocator of equal rights for freeing slaves and since I don't have enough information I don't know which is true.
About Nixon I heard about Watergate scandal but I've been annoyed with that nobody has ever told me what the heck scandal was about even when I have asked about it so thanks for telling me about it.
And about Bush as far as I can tell hes disliked but somehow still made it to second time which is extremely bizarre to me. So which part of that post was debunking again?
About Kennedy I don't remember much bad except something about womanizing tendencies that I have no clue whether I remember right person or not since many historical famous people do that for some reason :p
^How about examples from both categories?
Oh and I heard Roosevelt was liked and he did have that plan thing that saved usa from that recession if I remember rig- Or wait was that Marshal? My memory is crappy
edited 17th Jan '13 6:05:42 AM by SpookyMask
Clinton was also the guy that destroyed a pharmaceutical facility in Sudan, which indirectly led to thousands dying from diseases that could not be countered in that area.
Plus, he had Andrew Cuomo, William Daley, Leon Panetta, Larry Summers, Erskine Bowles, Rahm Emanuel, Phil Gramm, Peter Orszag and Jacob Lew in his administration, all of whom played a part in what would become the great recession.
Actually, Lincoln started off with the opinion that blacks were inferior to whites. He was fine with slavery only because the Union (which he cared deeply about) would benefit from it. By the end, Lincoln grew out of that latter mindset, leading to his famous (though paraphrased) "I want slavery tried on men who support slavery" comment.
Bush was elected to a second term purely because of smart political maneuvers by his campaign manager and Chief of Staff, Karl Rove. They made a big deal about supporting the troops in a time of war when his opponent, John Kerry, was bombarded for flip-flopping on the Iraq War.
edited 17th Jan '13 6:09:56 AM by Sledgesaul
And one more thing: According to dictionary debunking means "To expose or ridicule the falseness, sham, or exaggerated claims of" so what of my post was about making false claims as I made question based on stuff I had heard?
And yeah, I remember hearing about Clinton being considered to be good president despite doing some bad stuff like taking (according to cracked which isn't exactly trustworthy) taking advantage of some people who had had their life bad for sake of good pr though maybe that was Reagan..
Speaking of Reagan, I had heard he was crappy president, but if hes considered to be bad why would Obama mention him? So was he considered to be bad or good?
About Lincoln: Hmm, okay, sounds fairly possible. Though you could probably claim that that was for PR's sake, but there isn't any way to really find about whether historical people were speaking truth or not in things like that.
edited 17th Jan '13 6:09:51 AM by SpookyMask
Ooops. I picked the wrong word then.
Ronald Reagan propped up and supported totalitarian dictatorships, from Hosni Mubarak (Egypt) to Saddam Hussein (Iraq), in order to fight the Soviets. He trained, equipped and funded the Mujaheddin fighters in Afghanistan without any care about what would've happened if the resistance movement won (see Libya for a typical example of revolutions born from civil wars).
Osama Bin Laden was an ally of the Mujaheddin, an organization that would eventually turn into the Taliban. There was also the Iran-Contra affair, where Reagan supplied arms to terrorists in exchange for hostages.
There are two reasons for why Obama likes him so much - one, to please his unpleasable conservative opponents, and two, because he's emulating his shady policies.
edited 17th Jan '13 6:19:45 AM by Sledgesaul
Ah okay, you meant then just answering my questions then? .-.
Huh... Why do I get feeling that there doesn't seem to be non ambiguously "good" presidents in USA? .-. What about Roosevelt then? I know about that guy that his legs were paralyzed and Cracked keeps calling him badass.
Also, that that I keep confusing Roosevelt's and Runeberg's surnames
Latter is Swedish poet who was so big fan of Finland that his poem's words about Finland got turned into our National anthem.
edited 17th Jan '13 6:24:59 AM by SpookyMask
Roosevelt interned Japanese-Americans purely for their heritage because of the outcry from Pearl Harbor. Also denied an Olympic award for a black athlete playing for the Olympics and allowed Stalin to invade Berlin, the start of Soviet expansion.
On the other hand, he regulated the markets, created Social Security, formed the National Rifle Association (back when it wasn't insane), allowed women and minorities to join his administration, repealed Prohibition and provided relief/recovery for those in poverty, among many other things. Those programs were called the New Deal.
Ninja. Also, Presidents are still people. And, as no two people are exactly the same, it is all but impossible to find someone who is "unambiguously good" in reality. Even if you ask people of different Christian religions what is good about Jesus, they will likely have different answers.
Franklin D. Roosevelt did do one thing that is still actively helping the country: The New Deal that he put together included the creation of the Interstate freeway system as well as a number of other infrastructure improvements.
Then again, if you think about the current climate changes and what is causing them...
Well, it was certainly a good idea at the time. Also put TONS of people to work.
(Not to be confused with Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt, who was earlier. And I just about did confuse them >_>)
edited 17th Jan '13 7:06:14 AM by Belian
Yu hav nat sein bod speeling unntil know. (cacke four undersandig tis)the cake is a lie!

Outside of major cities and rich areas, Texas is pretty cheap compared to other places, but yeah the other costs associated with moving are killer.
Many business incentives touted by Rick Perry are being gutted as state lawmakers hammer out the budget.
"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."