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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
speaking of wackjobs.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/glenn-beck-announces-plan-independence-usa-233854956.html
Apparently Glenn Beck is going Galt.
If it works then fine, leave us alone. If it fails then maybe we can use it as an example for future generations. So I'm guessing this will be some ultra-libertarian, theocratic, utopia thingy? I give them 20 years.
edit: Also I can't wait for them to realize they need to start taxing people to pay for shit.
edited 14th Jan '13 7:39:42 PM by Kostya
"The community will be known as Independence, USA. If and when it is completed, Independence will produce its own food and TV and film content. There will be homes, baseball fields and a theme park. Think: Small Town, USA, but with a Beckish vibe.
Beck announced his plans on "The Glenn Beck Program." The main entrance to the proposed community will be based on Ellis Island because, in Beck's words, that's how most Americans came to the country. There will also be a marketplace, but don't confuse it with your local mall.
"There's not going to be a Gap here. There's no Ann Taylor. You want an Ann Taylor, go someplace else," Beck said in a video announcement. The marketplace, Beck says, will be a place for people to create their own businesses and learn from others."
so yeah. a crazy libertarian werent the 1950's neato keen utopia attempt.
Hold up. Is he saying they're going to set up shop on Ellis Island? What? Does he think the US government will just give him that? Actually that's a good point. Where is he going to find an unclaimed patch of land to establish this thing? He seems to be implying this community will be entirely self sustaining which is pretty much impossible. Every nation has to trade with someone especially if it's as small as this one will probably be.
He's not talking about putting it on Ellis Island; he's talking about establishing an immigration system that is like early America's, rather than what he perceives us to have today. You know, starry-eyed white Europeans traveling on boats to New York Harbor.
I too wonder where he's going to find the land for it. If he tries it in the United States, good luck not paying taxes.
edited 14th Jan '13 7:46:00 PM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Will they discover sea slugs that grant people special powers?
Didn't the old system make it easier for immigrants to get in? Yeah, good luck with that.
He could probably set up shop in a patch of the desert no one cares about but that makes it hard to make their own food. He also talks as though they'll just magically have the space for multiple baseball parks, factories, farms, etc. How big does he intend this colony to be? Finding land for a small town will be hard enough but what he's suggesting requires a space roughly equivalent to Rhode Island and there just isn't enough unclaimed territory on the map for that.
edit: He'd probably try and get out of paying taxes by getting the government to recognize it as a WASP equivalent to Native American reserves or something. It's a stupid justification but Beck's a stupid man.
edited 14th Jan '13 7:53:59 PM by Kostya
No gods or kings, Only Glen Beck.
Would you kindly pay taxes?
Which is one of the most stupid concepts I have ever happened to come across. Its like somebody had given somebody with a narcisitics personality a pen and had told them to write a bad novel abou... Oh wait...
Bio Shock, even do its just a video game, does a wonderful job of showing why going galt, even if possible, would end badly anyways.
edited 14th Jan '13 8:37:17 PM by Baff
I will always cherish the chance of a new beggining.Its not real "Going Galt". its theme park where people can pretend they are "Going Galt".
look at the article : "teach people how to grow crops", "create movies, TV shows", "deprogram them every summer". It will need people to visit and spend their dollar. Beck even acknowledge his vision need to "one piece at a time".
A Libertarian theme park? That in a way is even more cynical than "going Galt".
Edit: What the heck is so fascinating to the Libertarian mindset about the concept of founding a micro nation where everyone can go be like minded and have a free market utopia? My dad had that exact idea and was talking about writing a novel.
edited 14th Jan '13 9:37:56 PM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"I'm reminded of the 90s and those weird isolationist groups like the Branch Davidians or the Montana Freemen (and their punny name, "Justus Township"). Is that the sort of thing that Beck is talking about?
Glove and Boots is good for Blog!I dunno, maybe they think that a free market world could really work? And like imagining things that way? I swear like half the science fiction I read has this happening, or has it as a background feature. And it tends to come off as really preachy.
The tar sands thing is still going on, btw.
http://ecowatch.org/2013/ok-protest-keystone-xl/
edited 14th Jan '13 10:50:18 PM by AceofSpades
Harry Reid: The Assault Weapons Ban Is Probably Doomed
Well at least he's honest.
Michigan governor Snyder criticizes ad as too right-to-work
Governor Rick Scott Only Kept his Dog (Reagan) for his 2010 Campaign. Afterwards he gave it away
Dick move, Mr.Scott.
edited 14th Jan '13 11:41:58 PM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016

If it gets people to realize they're wackjobs and vote all these assholes out then fine. Stage as many revolutions or impeachment proceedings as you want. They'll all fail and the name Republican will be so toxic that we might finally be able to convince people to remove them from power.