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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Hey, I wonder if this Death Star petition will be followed with a Stargate Program petition.
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
What about state schools?
Okay, was this out of context?
If not then god damn...
edited 12th Jan '13 8:15:18 AM by Kostya
@ Baff:
Well, there was a Stargate Project
— an investigation (because the Soviets did it first) into using Psychic Powers for Military Intelligence.
I just hope you don't ask the same question of the British Education System*
edited 12th Jan '13 8:18:21 AM by Greenmantle
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Mostly, they are public in name only and depend on corporate donors who will pull the plog if they dare to investigate inconvenient things.
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But it seems we already did!
Funny enough. I was thinking about that. If they tried psychic powers then why not an interdimensional portal?
edited 12th Jan '13 8:20:01 AM by Baff
I will always cherish the chance of a new beggining.So, I quit this thread because it burned too much of my time and emotional resources but I dropped in briefly and saw this on the last page...
Really, Kostya? That's pretty ignorant and offensive. I expect better of you. "In your experience?" What experience do you have on the subject?
I was homeschooled for my entire life, and like millions of others in the United States I am not emotionally unstable, crazy, or ignorant. Few to no studies have indicated that homeschooled students fare worse in any respect than public school students, and many studies have indicated that they fare better. It is not OK to try to illegalize someone's way of life based on nothing but your completely unjustified personal biases, especially when your personal biases are not only unjustified but are in in direct contradiction with reality.
Sorry if that sounded a little harsh, but you're perpetuating an extremely hurtful and false stereotype about and openly advocating for the repression of a social group I am part of, which demands a rather strong response.
edited 12th Jan '13 10:21:18 AM by EdwardsGrizzly
<><I have to agree with Grizzly here. I was home-schooled up through highschool for the same of education. I spent my childhood in a town in upstate NY, like far...upstate. The town's economy was based on two things-Prisons, and Tourism. I can say with full confidence that if I were not homeschooled, I would have ended up far worse than I did. It allowed me to peruse my own interests, and learn about the things I wanted to learn about. It's not for everyone, and I can see it easily going bad with a different type of parents, but it also has the potential to give a kid a far better education than they would get otherwise.
However, I ended up with a good education. Without boasting, I can say I was in the top of my class in High School. If I had gone into school in the underfunded and badly anti-intellectual schools of my old town, I wouldn't have ended up nearly as well educated as I did.
Explain how it's always a bad thing. I've met people homeschooled for religious reasons, and yes, they were kinda screwed up. But that's not always the case.
edited 12th Jan '13 10:33:35 AM by DrTentacles
Because homeschooling erodes independ tought and has a high chance of fucking up the people that live under such regime.
Not saying you guys are an example, but I personally know some, and how I wish I could save them!
also I dint say it was a bad thing for everyone. Just a bad thing overall.
edited 12th Jan '13 10:41:04 AM by Baff
I will always cherish the chance of a new beggining.Regardless of the possitive experience some might have had with it.
Show me studies that indicates that homeschooled students fare worse on average in any respect than public school students to counter those that indicate that they fare far better. Until you do that, you are talking a load of extremely offensive crap.
Yes, in other nations horrible injustices like this
happen. Things that that should never, ever happen and any views that could lead to it happening in the US should be immediately and strongly condemned.
edited 12th Jan '13 10:43:14 AM by EdwardsGrizzly
<><That claim has no basis in fact, despite any unpleasant personal experience you may have had. There is nothing whatsoever to indicate that people in the public school system have a lower rate of such unfortunate outcomes.
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its a captive population
You cant really conduct much studyng of their condition.
Besides, fathers shouldnt have an all powerful perrogative over their children´s future. Its quite a destructive thing.
If anything, perhaps a mix system would be in order. But 100%homeschooling flies against logic. Its a very dangerous intitution with a wide margin for abuse.
edited 12th Jan '13 10:44:18 AM by Baff
I will always cherish the chance of a new beggining.I think school does just as much eroding of independent thought. Until I got to college, neither of the two high schools I went to taught me to think for myself. You weren't encouraged to debate the teacher, or go out and learn things for yourself. You were supposed to sit there, shut up, and absorb information.
Ironically, when I was home schooled, my father forced me into mock-Socratic debates over what we learned. I hated it at the time, but looking back, I've grown grateful for it. I was encouraged to think of different possible explanations for things we've learned, or one of us would play Devil's Advocate, trying to properly (non-straw-manning) defend various viewpoints.
This is false. The vast majority of homeschool families engage with their community just like everyone else.
So because you don't know much about it you fear it and try to destroy it? That is the very definition of bigotry.
You are still making totally baseless statements that express your own ignorance.
Again, I apologize for the harshness, but I hope any of you would respond in the same way to statements of this sort about some other social group you are more familiar with.
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Yea. schools are not ideal either.
But at least in schools students some times are presented with ideas that run counter to their parents dogmatic beleives (or at least in the least retarded states of the union). If your parents happen to favour socratic thinking, then that does not speak of the merit of homeschooling as a system but the merit of your perents.
Your anecdotical evidence does not suffice to justify the risk 1000 of childrens are put under for abuse.
Schools are, after all, the main outlet, albeit not a good one but the main one nontheless, that effectively warns the community about child abusse.
Its not destruction. Its regulation. And a mix system. You cant really study a population you cant sample freely.
and this is a reason on itself to doubt the validity of such institution.
edited 12th Jan '13 10:50:27 AM by Baff
I will always cherish the chance of a new beggining.Yeah, I don't know. I think that if we're going to allow homeschooling, then the kids should at least learn the same curriculum as the public schools. And there needs to be some sort of regulations involved to make sure that parents aren't just being lazy and/or teaching their kids crap.
I was homeschooled through part of middle school, and I was SO far behind when I went to high school, especially in science since my parents are hardcore anti-science Christian types. They were literally teaching me that "evolutionists" believed that geese evolved from barnacles, even though spontaneous evolution was disproven by Pasteur in the 1800s.
edited 12th Jan '13 10:49:13 AM by DrunkGirlfriend
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