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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Vote. Petition local officials. State Reps. Organize voting. That's the democrats biggest weakness. Primaries, and working on the local level. We need to improve that.
I'm saying you can't fix that without slowly working for a general shift in US attitude toward those things, and the best way to achieve that is working on a local level, upward. We're at a tipping point right now.
edited 11th Jan '13 4:25:33 PM by DrTentacles
You cannot elect people into office to do what you want when they're not going to if there's no financial incentive.
Unless, you know, you wanna find a way to stop printing money. That's really the main issue - the limitless money, the insatiable greed - but it's not going anywhere.
Unless the water levels continue to rise.
edited 11th Jan '13 4:27:34 PM by Serocco
In RWBY, every girl is Best Girl.![]()
Look, I'm not saying it's perfect, or easy. But the best way to achieve what you're looking for is trying to elect people who, at least in theory, support those things. Sure, they might not start changing things the moment they step into office, but if you keep pushing them in that direction as a voter, over time things will change.
edited 11th Jan '13 4:27:51 PM by DrTentacles
Look at how the media demonized Occupy Wall Street. They weren't able to accomplish much with the police, the politicians and the reporters all arraying against them.
Do you really expect the establishment to just bow their heads and heel if we yell at them loud enough?
edited 11th Jan '13 4:31:24 PM by Serocco
In RWBY, every girl is Best Girl.Yes, actually. It just won't happen as fast as you want.
Sure, Occupy died. But it succeeded in bring issues such as the rampant corporatism into light, and contributed into the slow, gradual shift in American attitude which is ongoing.
Change. Takes. Time. It's a process.
edited 11th Jan '13 4:31:50 PM by DrTentacles
Do you even know what the schedules are for the typical politician in America?
I'm not exaggerating when I say that they spend half their days just fundraising
.
Often times, they literally don't know what they're saying, and the lobbyists are the ones that write the laws for them.
edited 11th Jan '13 4:33:42 PM by Serocco
In RWBY, every girl is Best Girl.Let's not be too harsh on Serocco. Like I said, we've had cases before in this thread where people have shared their ideal visions, sometimes radical ones. We have (various) ideas like these: it might not always be realistic that it happens, and we don't always know how to get there even if we have a idea how to maintain it. Maybe it's just expressing our thoughts, and venting about the current problems.
Well, I applaud the thinking for this
attempt, but the judge squirmed around it.
EDIT: the hyphenator abides, check the URL.
edited 11th Jan '13 5:34:06 PM by Pykrete

What are we-the tropers on this forum-supposed to do.
Right now, we have the ability to vote. What else do you recommend?