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ohsointocats from The Sand Wastes Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#45951: Jan 2nd 2013 at 5:21:35 PM

@Serocco: exactly what you wanted to happen, right?

Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#45952: Jan 2nd 2013 at 5:23:05 PM

[up]Do you want Social Security and Medicare to take hits?

In RWBY, every girl is Best Girl.
ohsointocats from The Sand Wastes Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#45953: Jan 2nd 2013 at 5:23:38 PM

You said you wanted taxes for everyone to go up and they went up. Yay.

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#45954: Jan 2nd 2013 at 7:32:28 PM

Serocco, please, for the love of God, STOP REPEATING YOURSELF. You've said the exact same thing for your last ten posts. We get it. You think Medicare and Social Security are going to get hacked to bits. Please think up something substantial to say instead of repeating yourself ad nausuem. Every time you do that, I take you a little less seriously.

In regards to the VAWA: I CANNOT believe they're still getting away with that stupid shit. What, exactly, do we have to do to get them to actually renew the damned thing? It was as habitual as the NDAA because it was something they did every year, but they pick this year to block it and get reamed because of their repeated treatment of women. And still they're blocking it, like they think they've got some kind of leverage in this issue. What, exactly, does this gain them?

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#45955: Jan 2nd 2013 at 7:35:27 PM

Additional support from the Angry White Male contingent who can't stand the Gubmint telling them that they can't beat their wives?

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#45956: Jan 2nd 2013 at 7:39:01 PM

They're spiteful towards the women that elected Obama and cost friends like Akin the election? Who the hell knows.

edited 2nd Jan '13 7:39:11 PM by Kostya

terlwyth Since: Oct, 2010
#45957: Jan 2nd 2013 at 8:33:13 PM

Not renewing the VAWA? Now that's the worst direction to go,what's needed is a Spear Counterpart,why they haven't thought of a Spear Counterpart is a mind-boggle,seems a few years ago that would've been popular even.

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#45958: Jan 2nd 2013 at 8:46:25 PM

At this point women and folks in general are likely to find that moronic and insulting. What with the fact that violence against women happens more because women are seen as weaker. The reason we even have a law specifically against women is because assualts of all sorts against women were going unreported, un-investigated, and unprosecuted. Which in the end required a special law to ensure that they were.

Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#45959: Jan 2nd 2013 at 9:09:01 PM

What I find most sickening about that article posted earlier about Christie, is half the comments are people calling him a liberal who is conspiring along with "Comrade Obama"

Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
Gunpla is amazing!
#45960: Jan 2nd 2013 at 9:15:33 PM

Yeah, they even say he "campaigned for him"

(Because working with the god damn POTUS during a horrible disaster is "campaigning")

Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#45961: Jan 2nd 2013 at 9:17:04 PM

[up]

Well, duh, How dare he do his job when he should be busy keeping Obama out of office and saving america from libruls murdering babies

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#45962: Jan 2nd 2013 at 9:17:39 PM

Because how dare Christie be concerned that Congress isn't handing over money that the people he represents need badly in order to resume their lives, right? God DAMN.

RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#45963: Jan 2nd 2013 at 9:45:36 PM

I think there are a lot of people who just don't understand why Sandy wasn't as big a blow to Obama's popularity as Katrina was to Bush's. I know that in the early days of the storm, people thought it was gonna doom Obama's campaign, under the logic that, when there's a major disaster, people will irrationally blame the the President. That this didn't come to pass is, in some people's minds, evidence of "the liberal media" spinning things to make Obama look good.

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#45964: Jan 2nd 2013 at 9:58:49 PM

Wait, you guys don't know why the The House isn't renewing the VAWA this year?

Back in 2012, the Democrats in the Senate expanded the bill to cover gay men, lesbians, Native American women living in reservations, and trans women. It also gave battered illegal immigrants temporary visas. The Republican House objected to all of this, and instead passed the old version of the VAWA with all the new extensions omitted.

The Senate refused to pass the House's version of the VAWA, and the House refused to pass the Senate's version of the VAWA. At a standstill and with neither side willing to cave, no version of the VAWA was reauthorized.

Obama administration officials unveiled rules on Wednesday that will allow many American citizens to avoid long separations from immediate family members who are illegal immigrants as they apply to become legal residents.

Representative Stephen Lynch says he’s giving “serious consideration” to running in a special election to replace U.S. Sen. John F. Kerry

edited 2nd Jan '13 10:10:34 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#45965: Jan 3rd 2013 at 1:09:15 AM

Congress permitted a cut in the payroll tax to expire, meaning that the tax burden for the average worker will increase about $1,000 in 2013.

In RWBY, every girl is Best Girl.
ohsointocats from The Sand Wastes Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#45966: Jan 3rd 2013 at 7:35:43 AM

[up]And you said that's good. It's good that tax cuts are expiring because tax cuts themselves stimulate the economy, as they did in Clinton's presidency. Right?

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#45967: Jan 3rd 2013 at 7:45:43 AM

What?

Tax cuts/increases are inherently neither good nor bad. It's all about the multipliers. In theory, if taking money away from poor and middle class workers allowed that money to be put to better use elsewhere, it would be worthwhile. In practice, payroll taxes are heavily regressive, so increasing them without broadening them is quite bad, especially since you're taking money from the people who are most likely to immediately spend it.

We need revenue to pay for social spending, but taking that revenue from people on the lower end of the income curve is counterproductive.

edited 3rd Jan '13 7:54:16 AM by Fighteer

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ohsointocats from The Sand Wastes Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#45968: Jan 3rd 2013 at 7:56:05 AM

I am using Serocco's previous logic.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#45969: Jan 3rd 2013 at 8:01:41 AM

Don't strawman people. Serocco is on record as believing that the Obama administration is secretly trying to implement a moderate Republican agenda; that we basically have two conservative parties in power at the moment. While I understand why he feels that way, I think he's cherry picking his arguments to support his case.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Baff Since: Jul, 2011
#45970: Jan 3rd 2013 at 10:13:30 AM

I hope all of you remember Serroco's words when the next debt ceiling debtate comes around, which is in like 2 months.

[up] The democratic party IS convervative. So much so that other countries conservative parties have close ties with them.

After all Obama called himself a "blue dog democrat".

The problem with this country is that we can only have moderate conservatives, and far right conservatives. What makes it worse is that the democrats actually pretend, and win on, showcasing them selves as liberals.

[1]

Also, Obama didnt participate in United Nations convention against racism, becuase, IRAN! Thats a "leftist" alright. [2]

The problem with this country is that we can only have moderate conservatives, and far right conservatives. What makes it worse is that the democrats actually pretend, and win on, showcasing themselves as liberals.

edited 3rd Jan '13 10:23:30 AM by Baff

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Trivialis Since: Oct, 2011
#45971: Jan 3rd 2013 at 10:59:47 AM

So the new Congress is in session today.

[up]For foreign policy, I don't think it's Democrats being conservative, so much as US as a whole has a dominant mindset and is resistant to change.

TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#45972: Jan 3rd 2013 at 11:01:25 AM

Did the senate ever decide what special rules regarding filibusters to implement?

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#45973: Jan 3rd 2013 at 11:07:33 AM

@Baff: Oh, we're all worried that Obama and the Democrats in Congress will give away something vital in the debt ceiling negotiations. What bugs me about the way you and Serocco are talking is that you seem to think that there is some reasonable alternative that doesn't involve "kinda rotten" versus "diabolically evil". Obama does have fairly liberal positions on several issues, and I would like to think that in a less right-shifted environment, he'd be willing to espouse more.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#45974: Jan 3rd 2013 at 11:12:06 AM

Did the senate ever decide what special rules regarding filibusters to implement?
Reid wants a gentleman's agreement with Mc Connell, and has used legal trickery to keep the Senate on Day 1 for the entire month. If they can't come to a serious, mature agreement that everyone plays to, Reid plans to rewrite the rules the mean way.

terlwyth Since: Oct, 2010
#45975: Jan 3rd 2013 at 11:21:47 AM

When were the rules re-written so a mere threat of a filibuster could stop a bill anyway? Nixon? Eisenhower? Carter? Johnson? When exactly?


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