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Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#45926: Jan 2nd 2013 at 4:21:52 PM

[up] Tax cuts for the rich are permanent. Unemployment benefits will only exist for one more year as of now.

If that's "compromise", you can sign me off on it.

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#45927: Jan 2nd 2013 at 4:23:02 PM

What are you talking about? Tax rates are going up on the rich. That's part of the compromise. Again, explain to me how you expected unemployment benefits to be extended for longer. We should be glad they're getting extended at all.

edited 2nd Jan '13 4:23:24 PM by Kostya

Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#45928: Jan 2nd 2013 at 4:25:16 PM

Income taxes are lower for everyone today than they would have been if the American Taxpayer Relief Act hadn't gone into effect. While top marginal rates are rising for those making over $400K, those earners still get a cut on their income up to $400K.

edited 2nd Jan '13 4:26:08 PM by Serocco

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#45929: Jan 2nd 2013 at 4:26:47 PM

Yes but not for those above. I'd prefer if they were gone for lower incomes but saying the rich aren't getting their taxes raised is wrong. Some aren't, true, but not all of them are keeping their rates.

Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#45930: Jan 2nd 2013 at 4:28:28 PM

Here's another cave from the White House. Obama wanted 1.6 trillion in tetra revenue. Baehner countered with only 800 billion.

The final deal was 600 billion in extra revenue.

edited 2nd Jan '13 4:28:45 PM by Serocco

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#45931: Jan 2nd 2013 at 4:29:12 PM

Yes, that part I'm mad about. We'll see what happens next.

Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#45932: Jan 2nd 2013 at 4:29:47 PM

I can predict what'll happen.

Now that the Democrats have lost their leverage, Social Security and Medicare will get hit.

edited 2nd Jan '13 4:30:05 PM by Serocco

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Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
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#45933: Jan 2nd 2013 at 4:32:21 PM

I doubt that, nor do I see any reason to believe that.

What I can see happening is another bicker bitch fest as the republicans hold the country hostage over the debt ceiling, and our economy sputtering again due to it.

edited 2nd Jan '13 4:33:15 PM by Thorn14

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#45934: Jan 2nd 2013 at 4:32:59 PM

And then the GOP will lose their seats.

LMage Since: May, 2011
#45935: Jan 2nd 2013 at 4:34:32 PM

Voters will pitch a fit if the Republicans decide to use Social Security and Medicare as batter tools in the debt ceiling fight.

Social Security is one of the most widely popular programs in the nation, it takes much more good will then the Republicans currently have to even discuss touching it seriously.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#45936: Jan 2nd 2013 at 4:36:37 PM

Yeah. The GOP is not particularly popular now. Even if they were they'd have a hard time removing those without getting ousted. That's one of the reasons they fought against Obamacare so vehemently. Once people start benefiting from it it will become almost impossible to remove.

edited 2nd Jan '13 4:36:46 PM by Kostya

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#45937: Jan 2nd 2013 at 4:37:43 PM

So when are they talking about the debt ceiling?

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DrTentacles Cephalopod Lothario from Land of the Deep Ones Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#45938: Jan 2nd 2013 at 4:39:53 PM

About a month, I think.

Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#45939: Jan 2nd 2013 at 4:42:19 PM

The Democrats will agree with the Republicans to hit Social Security and Medicare.

The White House will champion those hits as "tweaks". Congress will claim those "tweaks" will help the economy. People will claim that those hits aren't as bad as they really will be.

edited 2nd Jan '13 4:47:05 PM by Serocco

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LMage Since: May, 2011
#45940: Jan 2nd 2013 at 4:46:12 PM

@Sercoo

What makes you think that?

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#45941: Jan 2nd 2013 at 4:46:20 PM

What evidence do you have of that?

Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#45942: Jan 2nd 2013 at 4:50:17 PM

Here is Pelosi saying that Obama's proposed cuts to Social Security would "strengthen" it.

That was back at mid-December, not too long ago. There's the Orwellian "tweaking" part.

edited 2nd Jan '13 4:56:52 PM by Serocco

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Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#45944: Jan 2nd 2013 at 5:07:47 PM

Also, most employees will take home less money in 2013 because a temporary cut in payroll taxes is scheduled to expire today.

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LMage Since: May, 2011
#45945: Jan 2nd 2013 at 5:08:00 PM

Oh come on! Why would you want to reform the Filibuster? It's one of the most entertaining political moves in the world :P

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#45946: Jan 2nd 2013 at 5:10:17 PM

Because they haven't had a talking filibuster for a few years at least now?

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Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#45947: Jan 2nd 2013 at 5:13:35 PM

In the next negotiations, Obama will put Medicare and/or Social Security on the table for the Republicans.

I guarantee it will happen. When it does, admit that those who predicted such were right.

edited 2nd Jan '13 5:14:38 PM by Serocco

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deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#45948: Jan 2nd 2013 at 5:14:13 PM

Currently, the way the filibuster works is that 40 or more senators need to merely announce that they want to filibuster, and the bill cannot pass. They don't have to actually filibuster the bill, just state their intent to. Harry Reid is attempting to reform it so that people would have to actually filibuster the bill, rather than just saying they want to.

Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#45949: Jan 2nd 2013 at 5:16:23 PM

By the way, the payroll tax cut will expire today, so you're gonna end up having your taxes raised.

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DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#45950: Jan 2nd 2013 at 5:20:54 PM

House Blocks Violence Against Women Act renewal

In the next negotiations,

Again, when are the next negotiations?

[up] I thought you wanted to increase taxes.

edited 2nd Jan '13 5:23:42 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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