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Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
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#45901: Jan 2nd 2013 at 1:13:13 PM

It is really feeling like the republican part is close to splitting open.

~~

Also conservatives are claiming that stalling the Sandy Bill is a victory.

edited 2nd Jan '13 1:23:17 PM by Thorn14

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#45902: Jan 2nd 2013 at 1:25:23 PM

I should point out the reason the House choose not to vote on the Sandy Relief Bill is bigger than 'I want to go home now'. The Senate wants the House to approve its $60 billion Sandy Relief Bill. The House wants the Senate to approve its $27 billion Sandy Relief Bill. Only one of these can be approved.

The Senate has accused the House of being miserly (true), while the House has accused the Senate of using the Relief Bill to fund things unrelated to Sandy (also true).

Both groups realize its an incredibly poor political move to vote against Disaster Relief, so the strategy is simply to not bring it up.

Cuomo blasts House GOP over denial of Sandy funds

Illinois Governor Quinn Seeks Fast Vote on State’s Long-Troubled Pension Systems

edited 2nd Jan '13 1:32:56 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
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#45903: Jan 2nd 2013 at 1:32:01 PM

I'm starting to notice when any compromise is ever reached, the response is always both sides being "disappointed" that their side didn't get more.

GOP is upset about the lack of spending cuts, and Liberals upset over not enough revenue.

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#45904: Jan 2nd 2013 at 1:35:27 PM

[up]

A good compromise is when both parties are dissatisfied - Larry David

edited 2nd Jan '13 1:35:44 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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RadicalTaoist scratching at .8, just hopin' from the #GUniverse Since: Jan, 2001
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#45905: Jan 2nd 2013 at 1:36:49 PM

Judging by the Reid article, Boehner probably wanted to go home and drink himself stupid.
Dude could do this with a thimble half-full of vitamin water.

Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.
Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
Gunpla is amazing!
#45906: Jan 2nd 2013 at 1:37:07 PM

[up][up]

Well yay.

[up]

Hah.

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#45907: Jan 2nd 2013 at 1:43:36 PM

Wisconsin State Senator Glenn Grothman Calls Kwanza an "Effort to Divide America"

> Implying people care about Kwanza

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LMage Since: May, 2011
#45908: Jan 2nd 2013 at 1:47:28 PM

Stalling on the Sandy Relief has to potential to be the undoing of the Republicans next House election.

It's also going to ruin Bahnner if they play it right. There's talk he could resign soon....Who's up to replace him?

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#45909: Jan 2nd 2013 at 1:47:44 PM

Do we really hear about Kwanzaa that much? I haven't heard much reference to it at all outside of when people list holidays that are celebrated in December.

edit: Honestly Hanukhah (how is this spelled?) gets more attention than it.

edited 2nd Jan '13 1:48:52 PM by Kostya

Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
Gunpla is amazing!
#45910: Jan 2nd 2013 at 1:47:53 PM

Wisconsin State Senator Glenn Grothman Throws Anything At Wall To See What Sticks.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#45911: Jan 2nd 2013 at 1:49:47 PM

Also I find him the more divisive one. He seems to be implying Kwanzaa is a bad thing and un-American which just divides people more by insulting those that actually do celebrate it.

RadicalTaoist scratching at .8, just hopin' from the #GUniverse Since: Jan, 2001
scratching at .8, just hopin'
#45912: Jan 2nd 2013 at 1:50:05 PM

[up][up]Including his political career?

edited 2nd Jan '13 1:50:13 PM by RadicalTaoist

Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.
DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#45913: Jan 2nd 2013 at 1:52:00 PM

Representatives Peter King of New York and Chris Smith of New Jersey: Boehner Has Agreed To Hold Initial Sandy Aid Vote This Week.

A $51 Billion Sandy relief package is coming on January 15th

A $9 Billion package will come on Friday to extend the flood insurance benefits to make sure that people will survive until the full package comes through.

Senator Pat Toomey (R-PA) says GOP should risk a temporary government shutdown to get spending cuts in debt limit debate

edited 2nd Jan '13 1:56:49 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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Baff Since: Jul, 2011
#45915: Jan 2nd 2013 at 3:17:37 PM

Whats really happening is that the house wants more fiscal austerity and thats why it doesnt want to vote for the Senate Sandy relief plan.

After all this are the same guys that wanted to defund FEMA.

edited 2nd Jan '13 3:18:00 PM by Baff

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RadicalTaoist scratching at .8, just hopin' from the #GUniverse Since: Jan, 2001
scratching at .8, just hopin'
#45916: Jan 2nd 2013 at 3:19:25 PM

The House Majority can take a long walk off a short pier. Holding up disaster relief? C'mon now!

edited 2nd Jan '13 3:19:54 PM by RadicalTaoist

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DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#45918: Jan 2nd 2013 at 3:33:57 PM

[up]And, we care what Trump thinks, why? tongue Seriously, the guy's nuts.

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Lost in Space
#45919: Jan 2nd 2013 at 3:41:41 PM

I can bear Donald Trump's disappointment with great fortitude.

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terlwyth Since: Oct, 2010
#45920: Jan 2nd 2013 at 3:43:26 PM

Caved to the Dems,...that's music to my ears,..it's the first time they've done that since the Bush admin...And even then.

Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#45921: Jan 2nd 2013 at 4:12:11 PM

Actually, no. The Democrats haven't done a thing.

Lemme quote Grover Norquist himself over that. "When Dems wake up, they will realize they just made most of the Bush tax cuts permanent and lost their leverage for the next four years."

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#45922: Jan 2nd 2013 at 4:18:26 PM

Serocco the tax cuts that are now permanent are mostly the ones we want to stay permanent. While I'd like those on people making 250k to expire I'm willing to accept 450k. It's better than what we could have gotten.

So I had a debate with someone today and they said we should have gone over the fiscal cliff because it would have ended the deficit. He then ranted about how the government system of taking from the rich and giving to the poor only for the poor to return the money to the rich is horribly inefficient. I tried to explain how it would stimulate the economy but he didn't agree no matter what I said.

Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#45923: Jan 2nd 2013 at 4:19:26 PM

Obama did not run on extending tax cuts on a permanent basis. He ran on allowing them to expire for those making over 250,000.

Under the deal, we get improved child tax credit, no cuts to food stamps and income tax credit extended to five years.

Tax cuts? Permanent. Unemployment benefits? Extended only for one year.

edited 2nd Jan '13 4:20:56 PM by Serocco

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Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
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#45924: Jan 2nd 2013 at 4:20:54 PM

Yeah thats called compromise.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#45925: Jan 2nd 2013 at 4:21:41 PM

So? Tax cuts being permanent is far more important to me. Were you expecting the unemployment benefits to be extended more than a year? That just seems unreasonable given the way the GOP is acting.

[up]It's a shitty compromise but it's better than what we could have gotten stuck with.

edited 2nd Jan '13 4:22:03 PM by Kostya


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