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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Higher taxes only stimulate the economy if they go straight into a stimulus program or social programs, and in this case that wouldn't happen fast enough to do the damage. They're taxing the rich more and the poor less, and that will do.
I would love to see them triple the budget of the Department of Education, but I'm gouging Warren Buffet to do that, not the working poor.
Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.Romney's forty seven percent comment. I think that's when he really lost the election. People don't take kindly to being called moochers.
The problem with the prison system is that if we banned private prison the government would be looking for a lot less reasons to lock people up, because it's damned expensive to do that. I've been thinking lately that the private prisons are more the reason pot and the like are still illegal, more than other things. Those prisons want to be full because the state has to pay up to store them.
It's a tie between 47% and Rove's epic breakdown for me.
Hugging a Vanillite will give you frostbite.Senate Approves Fiscal Cliff Legislation (89-8)
The eight senators voting “no” were Senators Tom Harkin (D-IA), Tom Carper (D-DE), Michael Bennet (D-CO), Mike Lee (R-UT), Richard Shelby (R-AL), Chuck Grassley (R-IA), Rand Paul (R-KY), and Marco Rubio (R-FL).
Not sure who were the 3 Senators that didn't vote.
edited 1st Jan '13 12:17:46 AM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016Serocco, you'r making the mistake of assuming that higher taxes by themselves stimulate the economy, which doesn't make any sense. Social spending stimulates the economy, and higher taxes just enable us to do that without increasing the deficit.
Also, "end tax cuts for everyone" is saying "raise taxes on everyone".
edited 1st Jan '13 12:17:41 AM by RTaco
I haven't seen the exact deal, but my understanding is that the deal wouldn't hurt the economy so much as it hurts the democrats' bargaining position. "Opportunity cost" is high, you could say.
So unless the president says "fuck you guys" over the debt ceiling and goes around them, he's screwed pretty shortly.
Compromise? its more like a capitulation.
Just because the Republicans asked for something, doesnt mean we should compromise.
edited 1st Jan '13 10:39:31 AM by Baff
I will always cherish the chance of a new beggining.Normally, I would bash the Democrats for caving, but this may be the only way to shut up the Bought-And-Sold Repugs. I still we had gone over the cliff, though, just to see something productive actually happen around here that isn't political/partisan bickering...
edited 1st Jan '13 10:42:38 AM by LostAnarchist
This is where I, the Vampire Mistress, proudly reside: http://liberal.nationstates.net/nation=nova_nacioLong term, the issue is that giving up your superior bargaining position for a technically unnecessary compromise just rewards the Republicans for obstructing and hostage-taking. We'll see similar 'looming disasters averted at the last minute' every year or so, at any excuse the GOP can conjure up, until the Democrats muster the solidarity to punish this behavior. And the current president has a pattern of feeding this behavior, unfortunately, which has won him no favors on either side of the aisle.
Furthermore, I think Guantanamo must be destroyed.

Congress doesn't have any one thing in mind, that's why this stupid fiscal cliff thing happened in the first place.
Except for 4/1/2011. That day lingers in my memory like...metaphor here...I should go.