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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
I'd vote for him too.
Bummer about the Name of Cain, though...
Except for 4/1/2011. That day lingers in my memory like...metaphor here...I should go.The only way I see President Warren happening is through succession.
Even then see would have a tough time getting past the Democrat Primaries.
edited 30th Dec '12 11:04:45 PM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016The Abstinence focused education thing on Kaine is really worrying since that is documented to raise abortion rates, STD transmission rates, and teen pregnancy. It's really worrying that he'd support something so immoral. I get where he's coming from, but it still doesn't work as advertised.
It is good that he supports contraception though.
He seems sane overall though.
edited 30th Dec '12 11:28:12 PM by shimaspawn
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. DickI know that there's a difference between them, but most abstinence focused education I've seen treats things like birth control as a footnote rather than something vital and important. As a result it's marginally better than abstinence but still has almost all of the same results.
The most successful sex education for preventing pregnancy and STD spread is sex education that focuses on educating people about sex. Not about saying no to it. Please, do encourage abstinence, but focus on the nitty gritty and not just for the straight kids, because at some point, it will be important.
edited 30th Dec '12 11:44:05 PM by shimaspawn
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. DickWarren winning the Democratic primary is unlikely, though admittedly I'm looking at 2004 for this. Howard Dean pulled the grassroots up, but when push came to shove, the party picked the Democratic version of Romney; someone effectively no different from Bush. Remember that corporate money is spent on both sides of the fence.
Now, I do believe that Warren could win the 2016 election if she makes it past the primary (unlikely) and the Tea Party continues its hijack of the Republican Party (very likely). Warren's attacks on corporate money are straight out of the populares playbook. "We have a corruption problem, give me power and I'll roll up my sleeves and fix it." I'd worry about her risk of assassination if she came close to success, though.
I don't get why people who are anti-abortion also tend to be against things that have actually been shown to reduce unwanted pregnancies. Abstinence should be taught as one among several options, including birth control, non-penetrative sex, and so on. And also teaching young people to make responsible decisions and to not have to feel pressured into sex if they're not ready. Ignorance is the absolutely worst option.
edited 31st Dec '12 10:15:21 AM by Lawyerdude
What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly.It's simple in my mind. Many that are anti-abortion are also anti-sex, at least until you're married. Possibly getting pregnant is a major deterrent towards sex for many young people (obviously not all) so if there's an easy out they don't like it because that means young people will just have sex with no consequences. The Catholic Church is probably the biggest opponent of contraceptives due to them thinking they're immoral.
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Pretty much this. People that think sex for any purpose except generating a child is immoral dislike contraceptives no matter how effective they are because they think pregnancy will be enough to scare kids into not bumping uglies, and that contraceptives turn people into sluts.
edited 31st Dec '12 10:57:18 AM by Midgetsnowman

Kaine claims that he has encouraged policymakers to focus on bringing down the number of abortions by reducing teen pregnancy through abstinence-focused education, ensuring women's access to health care and contraception, and promoting adoption.[56] He supports some legal restrictions on abortion, such as requiring parental consent and banning partial-birth abortions in cases where the woman's life is not at risk.[57]
Ok, starting to like this guy a bit...
That's a fair and realistic assessment, and better than the "ERMAGERD WAR" positions of many Dems...
While this doesn't say too much about what he would do in an official capacity, it shows that he feels some people are ok to put to death, I can jive with that.
Kaine supported passage of the Affordable Care Act, commonly known as Obama Care. On this issue, Kaine said, “I was a supporter and remain a supporter of the Affordable Care Act. I felt like it was a statement that we were going to put some things in the rear view mirror.”[63]
Pro-healthcare, ok. I've got a lot of worries about its implementation, but I'm overall a supporter of Obama Care myself.
Kaine supports removing the cap on income subject to Social-Security taxes. He said, "For Social Security, we can raise the income payroll tax cap so that it covers a similar percentage of income as it did in the 1980s under President Reagan, which would greatly extend the solvency of the program."[70]
Kaine supports a new internet sales tax that would impose a sales tax on online sellers and require them to pay taxes to states where they have no physical presence. Sellers in states with low sales taxes, like Virginia, would be required to pay a higher sales tax directly to other states.[71][72]
Don't know if I like that sales tax idea. But that might just be because I love shopping online and like dodging sales tax. If I were in his position, I suppose I'd see both the way that could level the playing field for physical shopping locations and bring in more tax revenue at the same time.
But most importantly...
The commission, led by former Virginia State Police Superintendent Gerald Massengill and former U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge, began work on April 28, 2007, and issued its findings and recommendations on August 30, 2007. On April 30, 2007, Governor Kaine signed an executive order instructing state agencies to step up efforts to block gun sales to people involuntarily committed to inpatient and outpatient mental health treatment centers.[33] Kaine's quick return to the state and his handling of the issue received widespread praise.[34]
Nice. He focused on the mental health aspect of the spree shooting, and didn't go into some kneejerk lets ban guns response.
As mayor, Kaine gained national attention following the implementation of a gun law known as Project Exile, an initiative that moved trials for armed defendants to federal court, which has stiffer sentencing guidelines.[12][13]
(From Project Exile entry) The National Rifle Association (NRA) and the Brady Campaign were both early and vocal supporters of Project Exile, as were federal and city officials who claimed that Project Exile helped to reduce firearm-related violence in Richmond by 40 percent. The NRA lobbied the U.S. Congress to help secure $2.3 million for emulation of Exile in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania and Camden County, New Jersey, where similar firearms-related violence has plagued the communities.
Ok, this guy seems pretty cool. I'd vote for him.
From his current track record so far, it looks like he dives into problems pretty quickly, and isn't interested in slapping band-aids on epidemic issues to save face. Looks like with every issue he's tackled, he's went to the root of the problem in an analytical fashion. Short of him really fucking up and saying something I really don't like, I'd vote for this guy.
When you can come up with an idea that gets both the Brady Campaign and the NRA to put their money in the same pot, that gives me some vague hope that he could twist a pretty good deal with the GOP if he needed to.
edited 30th Dec '12 10:42:33 PM by Barkey