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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#45401: Dec 30th 2012 at 3:39:17 PM

I'm more bothered by them teaming up with the bankers.

rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#45402: Dec 30th 2012 at 3:39:37 PM

I find it kind of funny that this showed up while I've been watching Oliver Stone's The Untold History of the United States.

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#45403: Dec 30th 2012 at 3:40:06 PM

I'm bothered by the fact that these targets were mostly or entirely citizens of the States.

"The marvel is not that the Bear posts well, but that the Bear posts at all."
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#45404: Dec 30th 2012 at 3:41:22 PM

They also seem to have recognized that the movement was entirely peaceful yet they still decided to crack down on them.

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#45405: Dec 30th 2012 at 3:43:51 PM

Occupy Wallstreet happened in America. Who else were they going to target, Australians?

As for teaming up with bankers; considering the protest was centered largely on banks it makes sense because it was those guys that would have been in danger if things had actually turned to large scale violence. That's like being surprised that a police detail talks with the doctor in charge at an abortion clinic when there's a large, potentially violent mob outside the clinic.

In any case, the surveillance is something of the type I'm already pretty sure they were doing, so any alarm you think you should feel over this is something you should have been feeling for a long while now.

deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#45406: Dec 30th 2012 at 3:46:35 PM

ROW, ROW, FIGHT THE POWAH!

Seriously, fuck them. They are cracking down on peaceful protests that are just suggesting that the rich shouldn't run everything.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#45407: Dec 30th 2012 at 3:47:46 PM

Yes but why attack them? It says in the article that they acknowledged they were peaceful yet they still decided to crack down on them. I could understand keeping tabs on the movement and monitoring their actions but they don't seem to have done anything to warrant the crackdown. It comes off as the FBI protecting the bankers from imagined threats which is worrying since it means they put their safety above that of the citizens.

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#45408: Dec 30th 2012 at 3:56:39 PM

We do have an old OWS thread that this conversation should take in. And as for why; government tends to be paranoid about safety. And that the banks wield more power than they should is also an unsurprising fact we've been over. In any case, the FBI hasn't actually done anything, it was mostly the police getting either stupid on their own or getting bad orders from higher ups. Again, something that we went over in the OWS thread exhaustively. Anything more about this particular article and subject should go there.

But people in this thread have a remarkable resistance to going to the actual appropriate threads when they get linked.

ohsointocats from The Sand Wastes Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#45409: Dec 30th 2012 at 3:58:16 PM

So this is just about the FBI having plans?

I mean, I hate to bring this up, but doesn't the US also have plans for invading Canada, being overrun by hostile girlscouts, aliens, etc...?

TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#45410: Dec 30th 2012 at 4:05:33 PM

Try a direct link to the OWS thread.

Joesolo Indiana Solo Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Indiana Solo
#45411: Dec 30th 2012 at 4:09:56 PM

[up][up] We've had that plan for canada for a long time. MUAHAHAHAH YOUR SYRUP AND OIL WILL BE OURS!!!! [lol]

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AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#45412: Dec 30th 2012 at 4:27:12 PM

Dude, Tomu, I said that from experience. Some pages back people insisted on talking about presidents no matter how many times I linked to the actual president's thread. No one was polite enough to go there. They just kept talking about past presidents.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13257832080A88315400&page=1

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13360556020A54560100&page=11#259

That said, there are two OWS relevant threads that aren't locked.

edited 30th Dec '12 4:27:30 PM by AceofSpades

TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#45413: Dec 30th 2012 at 4:51:27 PM

Maybe try cross linking and then posting? <Shrugs>

carbon-mantis Collector Of Fine Oddities from Trumpland Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Married to my murderer
Collector Of Fine Oddities
#45414: Dec 30th 2012 at 5:50:51 PM

Hillary Clinton returns to hospital after blood clot discovered.

No word on the severity of it. Hopefully it's somewhere relatively easy to treat.

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Unchanging Avatar.
#45415: Dec 30th 2012 at 7:03:52 PM

This collapse seems likely to cripple her chances for the Presidency. She's looking frailer and less healthy by the minute.

Except for 4/1/2011. That day lingers in my memory like...metaphor here...I should go.
AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#45416: Dec 30th 2012 at 7:22:16 PM

Considering that it's four years away, I think that's jumping the gun a bit. Course, I still doubt she wants to run because she's RETIRING, but y'all seem to love ignoring that when speculating about four years down the road.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#45417: Dec 30th 2012 at 7:33:10 PM

Let Hillary retire, she's done enough.

Also the comments really piss me off. Apparently she's faking this to avoid having to testify. I really wish this Benghazi thing would go away. Bush had 43 deaths of this nature under his administration yet I never heard about calls to impeach him.

edit: I'd rather Julian Castro be the next president. Elizabeth Warren would be nice too though.

edited 30th Dec '12 7:36:28 PM by Kostya

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#45418: Dec 30th 2012 at 7:56:13 PM

Who's Julian Castro? And I'd say his name would keep him out of the presidency but that didn't seem to prevent Obama from getting there.

Arkasas (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#45419: Dec 30th 2012 at 8:00:13 PM

Julian Castro was this year's DNC keynote speaker. Just like some other guy we know, only this time it's the middle of a Democratic president's term.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#45420: Dec 30th 2012 at 8:02:51 PM

Current mayor of San Antonio and the keynote speaker at the last Democratic Convention. He seems like a decent guy and is a Harvard graduate. Also I want him to win just to see how the GOP would react if we go from a Hussein to a Castro. Granted he's still unproven for the most part but I have a feeling he'd be someone to look out for.

edit: Unfortunately he's not interested in the presidency right now but that could change.

edited 30th Dec '12 8:03:35 PM by Kostya

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#45421: Dec 30th 2012 at 8:06:48 PM

Well, since he seems to be young it's not like he doesn't have time.

ohsointocats from The Sand Wastes Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#45422: Dec 30th 2012 at 8:12:53 PM

@Joesolo: Yes, I know that we've had plans to invade Canada as long as there's been a Canada. And plans for alien invasions, etc. Making plans to do things that they probably never need to do is a thing that the FBI does. Is there any evidence that the FBI acted on any of these plans, or were going to act on them before OWS fizzled?

I guess what I mean is that there are contingency plans and then there are plan plans. A lot of what the US has done is horrible but if we looked at all of the things that never got off the ground as a crime as well, everyone's in very, very deep doodoo.

edited 30th Dec '12 8:13:20 PM by ohsointocats

Joesolo Indiana Solo Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Indiana Solo
#45423: Dec 30th 2012 at 8:29:10 PM

True. Who hasn't wanted to do something illegal or immoral at some point?

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Baff Since: Jul, 2011
#45424: Dec 30th 2012 at 8:51:00 PM

[up]

I can imagine those guys at military intelligence.

"what would it be like if we invaded Finland?"

I will always cherish the chance of a new beggining.
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#45425: Dec 30th 2012 at 8:53:01 PM

Thinking about it in that light I guess it's not so bad. The UN does have a plan for a zombie invasion after all.


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