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Unsurprisingly, there is Left-libertarianism
, including Libertarian Socialism. But, that's enough of that for the moment...
edited 28th Dec '12 3:06:47 PM by Greenmantle
Keep Rolling On@Ace Of Spades
It's wonderful news. I never thought the Senators in my district were such a cool bunch of gents. Can't wait till Jan so they legalize the bud to help folks cool down. I mean I'm certain we're all aware of how well the profit from legalizing can bring up the economy. Shit cuz of having it labeled as legal Cali and Denver should do well in sometime cuz of it. Shoot they're living the fashionable life IMO.
Makes me wonder how far Bone-head Boehner has spread his venomous nonsensical-ism amongst other politicians.
"I don't give a rat's ass about going to hell. I guess it's because I feel like I'm already there." -Mugen![]()
Bone-head Boehner has no political power. He hasn't even done anything particularly boneheaded asides from seeking to become the Speaker of this Congress, which is admittedly pretty stupid. He hasn't done anything, because he can't do anything, because the lunatics run the particular asylum he's been named Speaker of.
edited 28th Dec '12 3:18:04 PM by RadicalTaoist
Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.@Greenmantle: I'd guess so, but there's so many varieties of political philosophies I have trouble keeping up with and naming them all. But yeah, Austin is liberal in general, and a lot of the politicians that define themselves as libertarian are from here. (Ron Paul, etc.) There's bound to be some overlap or whatever at some point here.
@Couchpotato: I've long thought the opposition to medical marijauna had more to do with pharmaceutical companies and such than anything else. What with copyright being such a serious thing as regards medical patents and the like, and innovation being even more serious business there than other places. But I guess that's a bit broad for the Illinois subject.
I think that the vote in Colorado and Washington has acted as something of a tipping point. Not a large one, but it's notable that it happened during a presidential election year and all.
That seems rather low.
You sure Texas' population isn't higher?
edited 28th Dec '12 3:26:15 PM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016Okay, after checking it's about twice that. Which makes the whole thing about treating the petition like it's important even stupider. STOP BRINGING IT UP DEVIANT.
This just proves that a lot of people don't like being told what to do. In spite of the fact that a world with rules is safer, and a world that can't enforce those rules simply doesn't work.
edited 28th Dec '12 3:29:26 PM by AceofSpades
Obama "modestly optimistic" about a "cliff" deal
@Green: I know... Sadly, there's... National Anarchism... Aka a bunch of people who accepts the critiques of anarchism, and uses it as an excuse for neo-fascism.
@Ace: Anarchism doesn't mean no rules, though. It means no hierarchy. It means decentralized, yet confederated, communities run on direct democratic principles. No hierarchy. No state. Some rules.
@Radical Taoist
He is the one who encourages the rest of his party to follow through with a deal. The reason why he isn't going to fully embrace any policy Obama lays down is because he wants to save face. It's pathetic.
@Ace Of Spades
Ending marijuana prohibition would save the US $7.7 BILLION annually. That is nearly as much as Congress’ proposed Budget Control Act. Think of the jobs it would create, the court time I would save and the jail space it would free up for actual criminals. It's no doubt because politicians being pushed by companies veto the deals because it ruins their interest. Same reason which William Hearst Randolph jerk self pushed to make it illegal.
"I don't give a rat's ass about going to hell. I guess it's because I feel like I'm already there." -MugenThe traditional threat of the Republican Party to disobedient congressmen is "We're going to primary you next election with someone further out there, and between our money and the cultivated True Conservative voter base raised on AM Radio, they will stomp you." Well, in 2010, all the people further out there got elected to Congress, and they have that True Conservative voter base that has been cultivated for generations behind them.
Boehner has nothing to threaten the current Republican House members with. He offered a deal that cut the social safety net so viciously Dubya wouldn't have signed it, and his own caucus rejected it, either for not wanting Obama to take credit for anything ever or for not being conservative enough.
edited 28th Dec '12 3:57:14 PM by RadicalTaoist
Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.GOP senators propose $1 trillion debt ceiling deal
Any Dem who voted for this would be massacred by primary and Republican opponents accusing them of cutting Medicare. It's not going anywhere.
Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.I'm aware of the no rulers thing, deathpigeon. But if no one can enforce their rules, then there's effectively none to begin with. And if you have rules, then there's someone you put in place to enforce them, which means there's an inherent hierarchy, because someone is deciding who the enforcing branch is. For the sake of simplicity and efficiency, a certain amount of hierarchy is inherent to a well run society. Plus, most of the anarchist I've talked to simply have an objection to following the rules of the country they currently live in, regardless of whether those rules are sensible or not. Anarchism, in its most basic, has a lot of attraction to those who simply don't like following rules that don't allow them to do something. Something which could be damaging to society at large. Not to mention, it'd be damned impossible to enforce something like environmental regulations in an anarchist society simply because a lot of them would buck that after being taken over by the organized business organizations.
I fear what a replacement for Boehner would be like. I mean, if the Congress could get someone they would follow, it'd be someone the Democrats simply couldn't do business with on any subject.
Senate votes in favor of $60B Hurricane Sandy emergency-spending bill
John Kerry Endorses Ed Markey For His Senate Seat
edited 28th Dec '12 4:20:03 PM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016@Ace: Again, no hierarchy or rulers does not mean rules cannot be enforced. People would vote on who would enforce it with a limited mandate and the people would be able to withdraw that power at any time. Hierarchy is not necessary.
Also, I'm an anarchist, and I'm fine with following sensible rules. I object mainly to how the society is organized and some of the rules, such as the stupid war on drugs.
Plus, most anarchists are social and/or individualist anarchists, and the systems of them would preclude big business in favor of either communally owned businesses or self-employed people.
Hierarchy is damaging and constraining. Only with its abolition can humans be able to fully achieve their potential.
Governor Cuomo Launches "Build Smart NY" Initiative

If the LA Times and the Chicago Tribune get bought by Murdoch....
Well, that's just business as usual for News Corp.
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