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tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
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#45126: Dec 27th 2012 at 12:49:52 PM

12 midnight on New Years Day simply because all of those tax cuts and other things expire on that day.

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Wicked223 from Death Star in the forest Since: Apr, 2009
#45127: Dec 27th 2012 at 12:50:51 PM

There isn't really one "deadline", I don't think. The various provisions that make up the cliff will take place one after, starting with the expiration of the Bush Tax Cuts on January 1, 2013.

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#45128: Dec 27th 2012 at 12:51:20 PM

[up][up][up]Do you mean when the cuts go into affect or when things start going to hell? I don't know the latter but I'd imagine it would need to be in the first month or two.

[up][up][up][up]Oh boy...

edited 27th Dec '12 12:51:30 PM by Kostya

Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#45129: Dec 27th 2012 at 12:53:02 PM

Sounds like Bush 41 is close to death.

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tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
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#45130: Dec 27th 2012 at 12:53:42 PM

Guarded basically means it's good, but still kinda serious. Essentially better than Critical or Serious, but still worse than Stable.

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DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#45131: Dec 27th 2012 at 12:54:30 PM

Ed Markey, Massachusetts Representative, Announces Run For John Kerry Seat

EPA chief Lisa Jackson steps down after 4 years

edited 27th Dec '12 12:56:06 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#45132: Dec 27th 2012 at 1:01:56 PM

I predict that Hagel will not be nominated for Secretary of Defense.

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Ultrayellow Unchanging Avatar. Since: Dec, 2010
Unchanging Avatar.
#45133: Dec 27th 2012 at 1:06:50 PM

What are the alternatives?

Except for 4/1/2011. That day lingers in my memory like...metaphor here...I should go.
DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#45134: Dec 27th 2012 at 1:54:04 PM

[up]

I've heard Michèle Flournoy is an alternative to Hagel.

Ashton Carter has also been named as a potential candidate but that's less likely.

edited 27th Dec '12 2:05:59 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#45135: Dec 27th 2012 at 1:59:11 PM

The Republicans want Flournoy as Secretary of Defense, but then again, they also wanted Chuck Hagel before they were against him.

Flournoy worked on policies regarding defense and security, while Carter basically carried out said policies, though before Flournoy came into the Pentagon.

I think Obama will pick Flournoy, but since she donated to Hillary's campaign, the Republicans will probably use that as fuel to lash out against Flournoy.

edited 27th Dec '12 2:05:21 PM by Serocco

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DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#45136: Dec 27th 2012 at 2:09:06 PM

Obama calls leaders for Friday talks in effort to reach fiscal cliff breakthrough

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Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#45137: Dec 27th 2012 at 2:10:44 PM

I get the feeling that a deal will not be reached until the very last second.

Harry Reid concedes that a deal might not occur.

edited 27th Dec '12 2:12:19 PM by Serocco

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Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
V
#45138: Dec 27th 2012 at 2:19:52 PM

I get the feeling that a deal will not be reached until the very last second.

Isn't that a little...optimistic?

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Iaculus Pronounced YAK-you-luss from England Since: May, 2010
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#45139: Dec 27th 2012 at 2:27:30 PM

I get the feeling that a deal will not be reached until the very last second.

If that, given the prominent school of thought that actually advises going over the cliff.

What's precedent ever done for us?
deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#45140: Dec 27th 2012 at 2:31:02 PM

I think no deal will be made, and we will go off the Fiscal Cliff like Thelma and Louis.

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#45141: Dec 27th 2012 at 2:36:19 PM

Senator Mc Connell: Dems Slow to Act to Avoid Cliff

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3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#45142: Dec 27th 2012 at 2:37:45 PM

[up]&[up][up] To pick up the analogy: He is still saying they should have taken the other turn all the while?

edited 27th Dec '12 2:37:55 PM by 3of4

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deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#45143: Dec 27th 2012 at 2:38:33 PM

[up][up] Pot, meet kettle.

edited 27th Dec '12 2:38:53 PM by deathpigeon

Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#45144: Dec 27th 2012 at 2:58:01 PM

It's not optimistic. It's political.

Congress would love for the media to say "Great job avoiding it at the very last second when we all thought we wouldn't".

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TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#45145: Dec 27th 2012 at 2:59:34 PM

I'm in the "let's drive of the cliff" camp personally. Republicans need to stop extorting the White House at every turn.

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#45146: Dec 27th 2012 at 3:42:38 PM

Repubs need to be made to take the proper blame and responsibility for their actions. Going over the cliff is the only way at present that this can happen. As much as I would like people not to suffer over it, that appears to be unavoidable at this point.

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Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
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#45147: Dec 27th 2012 at 4:14:08 PM

Right now it sounds like the plan for republicans is to let us go over the cliff, then vote yes on an emergency measure to stop the tax raises.

That way, come 2014, they can't be killed by the tea party primary for "raising taxes"

Republicans aren't running against democrats, they're running against their own party.

RadicalTaoist scratching at .8, just hopin' from the #GUniverse Since: Jan, 2001
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#45148: Dec 27th 2012 at 4:54:25 PM

@ Serocco: Obama could pick Sarah Palin as secretary at this point and the Tea Party wing would find a reason to oppose him.

@ Thorn: Running against or running from?

Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.
DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#45149: Dec 27th 2012 at 5:45:22 PM

Retired General Norman 'Stormin Norman' Schwarzkopf dies

Shame. That man was quite talented.

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Baff Since: Jul, 2011
#45150: Dec 27th 2012 at 6:03:16 PM

Expect the democrats to cave in, as they always do.

I will always cherish the chance of a new beggining.

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