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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
WBC are just a bunch of corporatist lawyer shills who need to be deported, or better yet, imprisoned (because apparently, I'm the only one who thinks they need to be hunted down themselves for being gun nuts themselves!).
edited 24th Dec '12 9:08:56 AM by LostAnarchist
This is where I, the Vampire Mistress, proudly reside: http://liberal.nationstates.net/nation=nova_nacio"Conservative bikers turned out yesterday to protect Newtown mourners from Democrat Fred Phelps and his Westboro cult from protesting."
...Nice distortion there from Faux News. A) Making it sound like WBC is directly linked to the Dems and B) implying the Patriot Riders are conservative, when I believe they explicitly politically neutral. At least that's what they say anyway.
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.From what I've read from The Other Wiki they are just a bunch of people with bikes who got sick of the WBC. They also do charity work for veterans and their families. Never heard of them being linked to Hell's Angels or outlaw biker clubs though.
Unrelated edit: Goddammit. http://bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2012/12/24/source-edward-kennedy-will-not-run-for-senate-massachusetts/XJTMSKLTGoBhFYKIZonzxO/story.html
edited 24th Dec '12 9:46:04 AM by Rationalinsanity
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.Patriot Riders
are a motorcycle club (as much as the Hells Angels are a motorcycle club, YMMV). Hells Angels are just the largest motorcycle club in the US, so it's easy to mis-label any bike rider.
Two firefighters have been shot dead and two more injured in a shooting in upstate NY
. Utterly disgusting behavior.
It could be that guns and gun control become the defining issue of Obama's second term.
Schild und Schwert der ParteiThis is happening so often that if I didn't know any better I'd think it was being planned on purpose.
Hugging a Vanillite will give you frostbite.@ Devil
: I disagree with item 4 on that list, and item 11 I see only as a joke (a good joke admittedly, it's Chris Rock). But otherwise I agree with her proposals. That said, you've got some good ideas there too. I can get behind a License to Purchase approach (I wouldn't extend it to CCW as I don't think concealed carry should be permitted; if you got it, wear it openly).
Might I suggest a Permit to Secure? In urban areas, criminals like stealing guns as much as they like using them. If you own considerable firepower, you should be required to demonstrate that you can reliably keep it under lock and key. (If not, you could still own them if you left them someplace like a shooting range or public gun locker, which would of course have sufficient security.)
Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.Everything is political to Fox News.
Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.I've heard a theory that Obama wants to compromise just so he can appear post-partisan. Get a pat on the back by the Washington media.
Cenk Uygur takes it a step further by saying that Obama wants to cut the social programs because Obama wants the good publicity by people like Fox News.
In RWBY, every girl is Best Girl.The former I'll buy. The latter on the other hand is just over the top.
Obama's dumb sometimes, but he's not *that* stupid.
I think it's more likely that he knows Republicans won't/can't compromise, so by promising to compromise and then letting the fiscal cliff happen, he gets off with both the revenue increases and with placing virtually all of the blame on the Republicans, which gives him more leverage when we climb back up the cliff after having fallen off it.
Considering that he could just go over the cliff and that he had a super-majority from '08 and how he seems to be avoiding the cliff,still caved to the miniscule minority,it's really not that over the top
Well what politician doesn't want good publicity everywhere? What very few seem to learn is that you can't please everyone. Sadly it seems Obama isn't one of those few like '08 led us to believe.
edited 24th Dec '12 1:30:33 PM by terlwyth
I can believe he's honestly that naive, yes. He's probably surrounded by people who tell him so.
Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.

They are protesting American tolerance of homosexuality and saying God allowed this tragedy to happen because of it.
edit: They do the same thing at a lot of military funerals because apparently 9/11 and the resulting wars were caused because we aren't killing off all homosexuals.
edited 24th Dec '12 8:47:13 AM by Kostya